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J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Not Fuckin Around on April 30, 2007, 07:15:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 30, 2007, 02:53:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on April 30, 2007, 03:11:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 29, 2007, 07:44:27 PM ---People in the West seem to forget about their own bullshit... i.e. not allowing Muslim females to wear headscarves in school.
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morrocco, eqypt, turkey all muslim countries which have banned the headscalf in 1 way or another
whats wrong with wanting to see who you are teaching etc. muslims always cause fuss over shit like this while everyone else just gets along with it and follows the SAME rules
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Wanting to see who you're teaching? We're talking about a piece of cloth that covers a girl's hair, not her face.
Muslims caused a fuss over this because whether you want to admit it or not, the French law was targeting them.
The same rules? Oh you mean the non-Muslim girls are also not allowed to cover their heads... great logic. That's like me saying a Muslim country forcing every female to wear a headscarf is okay, and that non-Muslims causing a fuss would be just an over-reaction since the rule applies to everyone.
No matter what you say, it still is a law that's taking away their basic freedom. I know America's foreign policy is shit, but I can't deny the fact that unlike much of the rest of the world (some Middle Eastern countries and certain European ones), you can practice your religion freely here... the idea of not allowing someone to wear something like a headscarf at school would be considered absurd and ridiculous here.
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It's apples and oranges homey. I couldn't wear a hat in school either. There's no law that forbids them from covering their head out in public, or restaurants or whatever. There's no special forces unit assigned to patrol the streets looking for women in head scarves.
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It's not apples and oranges... because we're talking about religion here. You aren't allowed to wear hats in most American high schools, but they make EXCEPTIONS for people who need to wear anything on their heads for religious reasons. Also, you have to remember that countries like France didn't ban the headscarf in schools for the same reasons that people aren't allowed to wear hats to school here in America.... they're doing it because of the religious symbolism attached. That's a breach of religious freedom.
Don Rizzle:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 30, 2007, 07:22:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Not Fuckin Around on April 30, 2007, 07:15:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 30, 2007, 02:53:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on April 30, 2007, 03:11:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 29, 2007, 07:44:27 PM ---People in the West seem to forget about their own bullshit... i.e. not allowing Muslim females to wear headscarves in school.
--- End quote ---
morrocco, eqypt, turkey all muslim countries which have banned the headscalf in 1 way or another
whats wrong with wanting to see who you are teaching etc. muslims always cause fuss over shit like this while everyone else just gets along with it and follows the SAME rules
--- End quote ---
Wanting to see who you're teaching? We're talking about a piece of cloth that covers a girl's hair, not her face.
Muslims caused a fuss over this because whether you want to admit it or not, the French law was targeting them.
The same rules? Oh you mean the non-Muslim girls are also not allowed to cover their heads... great logic. That's like me saying a Muslim country forcing every female to wear a headscarf is okay, and that non-Muslims causing a fuss would be just an over-reaction since the rule applies to everyone.
No matter what you say, it still is a law that's taking away their basic freedom. I know America's foreign policy is shit, but I can't deny the fact that unlike much of the rest of the world (some Middle Eastern countries and certain European ones), you can practice your religion freely here... the idea of not allowing someone to wear something like a headscarf at school would be considered absurd and ridiculous here.
--- End quote ---
It's apples and oranges homey. I couldn't wear a hat in school either. There's no law that forbids them from covering their head out in public, or restaurants or whatever. There's no special forces unit assigned to patrol the streets looking for women in head scarves.
--- End quote ---
It's not apples and oranges... because we're talking about religion here. You aren't allowed to wear hats in most American high schools, but they make EXCEPTIONS for people who need to wear anything on their heads for religious reasons. Also, you have to remember that countries like France didn't ban the headscarf in schools for the same reasons that people aren't allowed to wear hats to school here in America.... they're doing it because of the religious symbolism attached. That's a breach of religious freedom.
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how come a muslim country like turkey banned the head scalf in schools
jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 30, 2007, 07:22:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Not Fuckin Around on April 30, 2007, 07:15:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 30, 2007, 02:53:03 PM ---
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on April 30, 2007, 03:11:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 29, 2007, 07:44:27 PM ---People in the West seem to forget about their own bullshit... i.e. not allowing Muslim females to wear headscarves in school.
--- End quote ---
morrocco, eqypt, turkey all muslim countries which have banned the headscalf in 1 way or another
whats wrong with wanting to see who you are teaching etc. muslims always cause fuss over shit like this while everyone else just gets along with it and follows the SAME rules
--- End quote ---
Wanting to see who you're teaching? We're talking about a piece of cloth that covers a girl's hair, not her face.
Muslims caused a fuss over this because whether you want to admit it or not, the French law was targeting them.
The same rules? Oh you mean the non-Muslim girls are also not allowed to cover their heads... great logic. That's like me saying a Muslim country forcing every female to wear a headscarf is okay, and that non-Muslims causing a fuss would be just an over-reaction since the rule applies to everyone.
No matter what you say, it still is a law that's taking away their basic freedom. I know America's foreign policy is shit, but I can't deny the fact that unlike much of the rest of the world (some Middle Eastern countries and certain European ones), you can practice your religion freely here... the idea of not allowing someone to wear something like a headscarf at school would be considered absurd and ridiculous here.
--- End quote ---
It's apples and oranges homey. I couldn't wear a hat in school either. There's no law that forbids them from covering their head out in public, or restaurants or whatever. There's no special forces unit assigned to patrol the streets looking for women in head scarves.
--- End quote ---
It's not apples and oranges... because we're talking about religion here. You aren't allowed to wear hats in most American high schools, but they make EXCEPTIONS for people who need to wear anything on their heads for religious reasons. Also, you have to remember that countries like France didn't ban the headscarf in schools for the same reasons that people aren't allowed to wear hats to school here in America.... they're doing it because of the religious symbolism attached. That's a breach of religious freedom.
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I was responding to this :
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on April 29, 2007, 07:44:27 PM ---People in the West seem to forget about their own bullshit... i.e. not allowing Muslim females to wear headscarves in school.
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So let me reiterate:
It's apples and oranges homey. I couldn't wear a hat in school either. There's no law that forbids them from covering their head out in public, or restaurants or whatever. There's no special forces unit assigned to patrol the streets looking for women in head scarves.
J @ M @ L:
I know what you were responding to, and that's exactly what my reply was to.
It's a breach of religious freedom.
Not allowing you to wear a hat is different from not allowing you to wear something on your head for religious reasons...
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Don Rizzle on April 30, 2007, 07:32:22 PM ---how come a muslim country like turkey banned the head scalf in schools
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You have to make the distinction between a Muslim country (where the government is run by people who impose laws based on Islam), and a country where the majority of people are Muslim (and as in the case of Turkey, most are secular... as you're probably aware, just this week there were hundreds of thousands of secular Turkish citizens protesting against what they see as a rise in the Islamic faction within the government). My point is that Turkey is pretty much a secular nation... there is no official religion, nor is there any state sponsored religion. Muslims can't even open up faith-based schools there. If you're asking why they did... I think the points brought up should explain why, and the explicit reason used to justify is the same as with the other nations... they don't want any clothing with religious symbolism in schools or government buildings.
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