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1 out of 2 Mexicans have family members living in the United States

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Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on May 02, 2007, 07:46:51 AM ---
I don't know how replying in caps makes a point anymore decisive in fact it works completely the opposite way, as the retort was akin to grade school thinking. Referring to the irish contingent that flocked to the shores of america is extremely ignorant when trying to justify or deflect from the impact of illegal immigration. How many inhabitants were in america when the irish came and how many inhabit now, some estimates put the current population at over 300 million though I will need to read more into. In terms of the illegal immigrants from a short term perspective it does benefit the economy yes but it does not benefit the daily lives of ordinary americans it massively benefits the major corporations. Of course illegal immigrants get exploited but they are also used as the weapon of choice to stretch resources to breaking point, transport infrastrastructure, health care, welfare, plus in addition a massive wave of immigration has the effect of driving down wages. At the same time, the dollar is being devalued to equal something less than the cost of toilet paper, outsourcing continues rampantly for example even Haliburton are leaving the shores to relocate in Dubai and the very budgets themselves are being plundered to the tunes of trillions.

Teddy if that was the case then why are there 11 million illegal immigrants officially, which probably means double in reality because of the way in which figures are massaged and manipulated? why if it so incredibly difficult is that I know for a fact that in Texas that mexicans cross with alarming regularity by using the border towns?. As for the cops in Mexico, they always turn a blind eye to illegal immigration over the border and or are paid off because that country really is run by corrupt fucks making the United States look like a kindergarten.

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In Mexico they actually encourage Mexicans to cross the border illegally. It's an easy way for them to deal with the the country's poverty and expand their influence in America. And you are right about border towns and such, but that is why they are building more wall and increasing security. A lot of the border is desert. The separate walls are used to force these immigrants to cross through the deserts, mountains, and other dangerous areas where they have a lower chance of making it across. Ideally an entire wall would be great, but politicians and activists alike will do everything they can to prevent that. But to say they are building 700 miles even though there is 2,000 miles on the border is ineffective take into account how much walls there already is (not sure, but I'll guess 500), plus the 700 they are building, which equals 1,200 miles plus the inhospitable terrain. Not bad when you consider the border patrol etc. Should there be more? IMHO yes. But that doesn't make the current plan ineffective.

Sparegeez:

--- Quote from: Garth Brooks on May 02, 2007, 04:01:49 AM ---fuck illeagals... We need to deport some leagals too.. I find it sad in 20 years whites will be minoritys in our own country in fact it makes me sick

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It's not your own country moron. Believe it or not there weren't any whites in America just over 600-700 years ago. You're all immigrants too just like the rest of us except you guys came a couple of years earlier. The color of your skin does not make you superior you idiot. The only difference between us is that we have females with "cakes" and not white girl pancakes.

virtuoso:

Fair point actually teddy but the funding has been set aside for the building of a wall the construction has not taken place yet and could ultimately be pure rhetoric, there will now just be a presumption that the wall will get built and thus the issue seemingly gone away. Aslo what really leaves a bad taste in the mouth, is the mexicans are fleeing a brutal and oppressive societal structure within Mexico and yet instead of the U.S denouncing the Mexican government., they pally up to the government there.

Don Seer:

--- Quote from: BigG on May 01, 2007, 08:21:51 PM ---It IS NOT making the economy worse.  If anything its making it better.

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how the hell can taking money out a country make it better?

if money stays in the US its spent in the US.. if it leaves and is spent in mexico it makes mexico stronger

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on May 02, 2007, 10:30:44 AM ---
Fair point actually teddy but the funding has been set aside for the building of a wall the construction has not taken place yet and could ultimately be pure rhetoric, there will now just be a presumption that the wall will get built and thus the issue seemingly gone away. Aslo what really leaves a bad taste in the mouth, is the mexicans are fleeing a brutal and oppressive societal structure within Mexico and yet instead of the U.S denouncing the Mexican government., they pally up to the government there.

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So true. :stupid:

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