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Curious......Whats so great bout ron paul???

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virtuoso:

You liken them to an umpire, yet fundamentally the UN is nothing but a sweet looking strawberry with a deadly poisonous taste. To illustrate exactly what I mean I am referring to the UN charter on human rights, it reads like a utopian delight but then when you reach articles 29 and 30 and go beyond the lawyer speak it effectively says you have no rights because those rights can be renounced by the state, stripping you of all rights. Fundamentally this violates every principle of the american constitution because the constituton does not work on the basis of the notion of they giveth and then they taketh away, the constituion is guarantees to the people, god given rights which no individual can violate. When he is talking about free market, he is talking about the layers of beaurocracy, he is talking about the income tax, he is talking about real competiton he is not talking about allowing an orgy of crime. I gave examples of what he means in the form of scrapping the no bid contracts, scrapping the public private partnerships and scrapping the north american highways which have again been effectively given away to foreign corporations.

Elevz:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on May 23, 2007, 06:00:24 AM ---You liken them to an umpire, yet fundamentally the UN is nothing but a sweet looking strawberry with a deadly poisonous taste. To illustrate exactly what I mean I am referring to the UN charter on human rights, it reads like a utopian delight but then when you reach articles 29 and 30 and go beyond the lawyer speak it effectively says you have no rights because those rights can be renounced by the state, stripping you of all rights. Fundamentally this violates every principle of the american constitution because the constituton does not work on the basis of the notion of they giveth and then they taketh away, the constituion is guarantees to the people, god given rights which no individual can violate.
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Shouldn't that be a reason for Paul to be willing to STAY in the UN and make a change for the whole UN, not just the USA? Make an issue out of them articles and expose the controversy, instead of backing out?

7even:
^He doesn't care about the rest of the world, just about his own. Classic American.

Shallow:

--- Quote from: 7even on May 23, 2007, 06:56:42 AM ---^He doesn't care about the rest of the world, just about his own. Classic American.

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Or maybe he realizes he needs to clean up his own shit before he goes and tries to wipe your ass.

7even:

--- Quote from: Shallow on May 23, 2007, 07:10:07 AM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on May 23, 2007, 06:56:42 AM ---^He doesn't care about the rest of the world, just about his own. Classic American.

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Or maybe he realizes he needs to clean up his own shit before he goes and tries to wipe your ass.

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Whatever you prefer...

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