Its been decided.............Lebron IS clutch! Deal with it.

[Don Jacob]

detroit> golden state
cleaveland> golden state
raptors>golden state
miami>golden state
chicago>golden state
nets> golden state
wizards WITH gilbert > golden state
orlando=golden state

[Sparegeez]

detroit> golden state
cleaveland> golden state
raptors>golden state
miami>golden state
chicago>golden state
nets> golden state
wizards WITH gilbert > golden state
orlando=golden state

Jacob you're kidding right? So that means the east is also better than the number 1 seed, Dallas?

[Don Jacob]

golden state had a better contingency against dallas, which means that they matched up better against them than any other team in the playoffs.  dallas was the team they NEEDED to play in order to advance, check the regular season, the only team that was really giving dallas that much trouble was golden state, pheonix too, but at least they were beating other teams. golden state had a mental and physical advantage over dallas that no other team has. it's a shame that golden state doesn't have that kind of power over any other play off team in the NBA. 

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Lebron is on the same level as kobe now.  in four years he was able to take a team the NBA finals. lol CLEAVELAND at that.

LOL@LeBron being on the same level as Kobe. The difference with the Cavs and Lakers (besides the Cavs getting a walk through the playoffs in the eastern conference) is that when LeBron is shit, like last night (especially in the 4th), his teammates carry him. He has a strong supporting cast with very solid bench players. LeBron is NOT on Kobe's level. Neither is Wade. I dunno what to say if you truly think this...PeACe

[teecee]

Lebron is on the same level as kobe now.  in four years he was able to take a team the NBA finals. lol CLEAVELAND at that.

LOL@LeBron being on the same level as Kobe. The difference with the Cavs and Lakers (besides the Cavs getting a walk through the playoffs in the eastern conference) is that when LeBron is shit, like last night (especially in the 4th), his teammates carry him. He has a strong supporting cast with very solid bench players. LeBron is NOT on Kobe's level. Neither is Wade. I dunno what to say if you truly think this...PeACe

NIK, I don't think you even believe what you write, i just think you do it all to get a rise out of people!  ANd damn it, you are good at it!!!!



Real shit:  If Kobe was triple teamed last night like Lebron, he would've shot 9 for 34, tossing up wild shot after wild shot as he doesn't know a good one from a bad one.  NOone its tough shots like Kobe, but his poor shot selection at times is why his shooting percentage is as low as it is.

Lebron took Gibson aside at the start of the year, told him he was his shooter, helped boost his confidence, etc.  The reason other Cavs are stepping up is their leader believes in them, simple as that.  You really think that Cleveland has a "strong supporting cast"?  NO, of course you don't, you just trying to get me to work on my typing skills and actually respond.

I

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Lebron is on the same level as kobe now.  in four years he was able to take a team the NBA finals. lol CLEAVELAND at that.

LOL@LeBron being on the same level as Kobe. The difference with the Cavs and Lakers (besides the Cavs getting a walk through the playoffs in the eastern conference) is that when LeBron is shit, like last night (especially in the 4th), his teammates carry him. He has a strong supporting cast with very solid bench players. LeBron is NOT on Kobe's level. Neither is Wade. I dunno what to say if you truly think this...PeACe

NIK, I don't think you even believe what you write, i just think you do it all to get a rise out of people!  ANd damn it, you are good at it!!!!



Real shit:  If Kobe was triple teamed last night like Lebron, he would've shot 9 for 34, tossing up wild shot after wild shot as he doesn't know a good one from a bad one.  NOone its tough shots like Kobe, but his poor shot selection at times is why his shooting percentage is as low as it is.

Lebron took Gibson aside at the start of the year, told him he was his shooter, helped boost his confidence, etc.  The reason other Cavs are stepping up is their leader believes in them, simple as that.  You really think that Cleveland has a "strong supporting cast"?  NO, of course you don't, you just trying to get me to work on my typing skills and actually respond.

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LOL@Clevelenad not having a supporting cast when they constantly win games with LeBron disappearing/looking like a role player. Kobe was the first on the phone with Radmanovic before and after he signed, telling him how much his shooting will open up the triangle for the Lakers, and look what happened with that... Why wouldn't I believe what I write? LeBron himself knows he's nowhere near Kobe. Who's OBVIOUSLY better on offense? Kobe. Who's OBVIOUSLY better on defense? Kobe. Who has won something that counts and has constantly come through in huge games? Kobe. Who is by far the best player in the league? KOBE. A lot of people can't stand my opinions, but the fact of the matter is, despite how bias it might sound, they're all based off of logic. LeBron didn't do for Gibson anything Kobe hasn't done for his players. When they play on a team together (ala USA), Kobe is LeBron's leader. Believe that...PeACe


PS. LOL@If Kobe was "triple teamed". Kobe is not LeBron, he ALWAYS gets triple teamed. I guess that's why his shooting percentage is "so low" though (<<LOL@that as well).

[Don Jacob]

1. name one player on the cavs as good odom?  gooden? larry hughes? eric snow? lol illgoofus? the lakers are just as deep if not deeper than the cavs, the only difference is the heart is there, lebron is the leader and is a team player and that team can win big games. simple as that, the  lakers can't even beat the suns with the best offensive weapon in the league , then add onto that one of the best team mates to have (odom) lol.


let's look at the cleaveland cavs vs the Lakers


shannon brown
daniel gibson
drew gooden
larry hughes
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Lebron James
Damon Jones
dwayne jones
Donyell marshall
Ira Newble
Aleksander Provlovic
scot pollard
eric snow
david wesley
Anderson Varejao


okay now the lakers

Luke Walton
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown
Andrew Bynum
Jordan Farmar
Kobe Bryant
Brian Cook
Maurice Evans
Smush Parker
Vladimir Radmanovic
Ronni Turiaf
Sasha Vujacic
Shammond Williams
Aaron Mckie
Chris Mihm


oh yeah not to mention we are coached by phil jackson 


okay all that going for us and we can't beat the 2nd place suns that you degrade as not a real team anyway?

okay all that and Cleaveland wins 4 straight games against the number 1 team The pistons?

it's not the refs. It's not the media. It's not one rebound. it's sure not the benches. do you know what it is?

the leadership!


why does a team with a beat up shaquille o'neal and Alanzo mourning win the NBA championship? Why Do the spurs continually do well? Leadership. Why did the Cavs place 2nd and go on to the nba finals... Leadership.

this past regular season the cavs went

2-0 against the lakers
2-0 against the spurs
2-0 against golden state
1-1 against utah (lost first game by 1 point!)
1-1 against houston
then 0-2 vs denver, dallas, and phoenix

that's .500 against western conference playoff teams 1.000 against their next opponant  AND the "superior" lakers.

Now the Lakers


Dallas-1-3
Phoenix- 1-3 (2-6 counting playoffs)
San Antonio-2-1
Utah- 2-1
Houston-2-2
Denver-1-3
Golden State-4-0

13-26 vs western conference playoff teams, .500, which is the same as the cavs


now the eastern conference


detroit-0-2
new jersey-2-0
miami-1-1
chicago-1-1
orlando-2-0
toronto-1-1
washington-1-1
cleaveland-0-2

8-16, hmmmm now that's .500 in the LEASTERN conference for the lakers

detroit 1-3 (5-5 counting playoffs)
new jersey- 3-1
miami- 1-3
chicago-2-2
toronto-3-1
washington-3-1
orlando 1-2

14-23, .608  from the cavs.....hmmmm so the cavs through stats can fair jsut as well as the lakers if not BETTER seeing as they can beat them and play better in the eat

Lebron is just as good as kobe  now

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

1. name one player on the cavs as good odom?  gooden? larry hughes? eric snow? lol illgoofus? the lakers are just as deep if not deeper than the cavs, the only difference is the heart is there, lebron is the leader and is a team player and that team can win big games. simple as that, the  lakers can't even beat the suns with the best offensive weapon in the league , then add onto that one of the best team mates to have (odom) lol.


let's look at the cleaveland cavs vs the Lakers


shannon brown
daniel gibson
drew gooden
larry hughes
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Lebron James
Damon Jones
dwayne jones
Donyell marshall
Ira Newble
Aleksander Provlovic
scot pollard
eric snow
david wesley
Anderson Varejao


okay now the lakers

Luke Walton
Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown
Andrew Bynum
Jordan Farmar
Kobe Bryant
Brian Cook
Maurice Evans
Smush Parker
Vladimir Radmanovic
Ronni Turiaf
Sasha Vujacic
Shammond Williams
Aaron Mckie
Chris Mihm


oh yeah not to mention we are coached by phil jackson 


okay all that going for us and we can't beat the 2nd place suns that you degrade as not a real team anyway?

okay all that and Cleaveland wins 4 straight games against the number 1 team The pistons?

it's not the refs. It's not the media. It's not one rebound. it's sure not the benches. do you know what it is?

the leadership!


why does a team with a beat up shaquille o'neal and Alanzo mourning win the NBA championship? Why Do the spurs continually do well? Leadership. Why did the Cavs place 2nd and go on to the nba finals... Leadership.

this past regular season the cavs went

2-0 against the lakers
2-0 against the spurs
2-0 against golden state
1-1 against utah (lost first game by 1 point!)
1-1 against houston
then 0-2 vs denver, dallas, and phoenix

that's .500 against western conference playoff teams 1.000 against their next opponant  AND the "superior" lakers.

Now the Lakers


Dallas-1-3
Phoenix- 1-3 (2-6 counting playoffs)
San Antonio-2-1
Utah- 2-1
Houston-2-2
Denver-1-3
Golden State-4-0

13-26 vs western conference playoff teams, .500, which is the same as the cavs


now the eastern conference


detroit-0-2
new jersey-2-0
miami-1-1
chicago-1-1
orlando-2-0
toronto-1-1
washington-1-1
cleaveland-0-2

8-16, hmmmm now that's .500 in the LEASTERN conference for the lakers

detroit 1-3 (5-5 counting playoffs)
new jersey- 3-1
miami- 1-3
chicago-2-2
toronto-3-1
washington-3-1
orlando 1-2

14-23, .608  from the cavs.....hmmmm so the cavs through stats can fair jsut as well as the lakers if not BETTER seeing as they can beat them and play better in the eat

Lebron is just as good as kobe  now

Funny how you choose to ignore that the Cavs play in the east and basically got a walk through the playoffs. I mean, do you deny that they woulda been bounced in the 1st round had they been in the west? Come on, now. LeBron is not close to Kobe as of now, and you know this. Unlike the Lakers of late, the Cavs have been a well balanced team with experienced veterans and all-star caliber playerS to fit the system. They have bigs (Ilgauskas, Vareajo, Gooden), perimeter players (Hughes, LeBron, Pavlovic), point guards (Eric Snow, Daniel Gibson, Damon Jones), shooting specialists (Donyell Marsahall, Damon Jones). And they play excellent TEAM defense...Theyre pretty much set for what they're tryna do, not to discredit James, cuz I still think he's a very good player with lotsa' room to grow, but to say he's on Kobe's level because he won this series is just not gunna cut it...PeACe

[Antonio_]

It's a storm. You know. It's like when the Heat won the title with Shaq. Now it's time for all the LeBron James' fans to show their excitement, and it's time for all the Kobe haters to hate on Kobe, again. You can do nothing about it, NIK. So maybe we should simply sit down, relax, take a deep breath and try to understand this people so excited. I feel them. I disagree with them but they have a point, there. I appreciated 7even when the Warriors eliminated the Mavs. We should do the same, homie. We should sit down, take that deep breath and try to give LeBron props for what he did without doing the mistake to understimate him. He did a great thing in Game-5, he made history. And he's about to play his first NBA Finals at 22. The kid got numbers, man. Good numbers. He has a pretty decent supporting cast (damn Gibson!), but his team was overall worse than the Pistons and the Nets too, imho. So it's not like he the easier thing in the world! Let's give him the props he deserves. Kobe is better, imho. I do agree with you. But there's only one place where to show it, and it's on the court. And there's only one thin that will shut the haters down: a 4th ring. Kobe knows it, and he knows that until he'll carry the Lakers on the NBA Finals by himself, people will continue to call him a selfish player who can't win titles / won titles because of Shaq. He knows it, that's why he's so confused and aggressive right now. I'm positive, not as positive as you but i'm pretty positive, man. But let's not stop the dream all the LeBron James' fans are living. Shit, i'm starting to like this kid too..

[teecee]

It's a storm. You know. It's like when the Heat won the title with Shaq. Now it's time for all the LeBron James' fans to show their excitement, and it's time for all the Kobe haters to hate on Kobe, again. You can do nothing about it, NIK. So maybe we should simply sit down, relax, take a deep breath and try to understand this people so excited. I feel them. I disagree with them but they have a point, there. I appreciated 7even when the Warriors eliminated the Mavs. We should do the same, homie. We should sit down, take that deep breath and try to give LeBron props for what he did without doing the mistake to understimate him. He did a great thing in Game-5, he made history. And he's about to play his first NBA Finals at 22. The kid got numbers, man. Good numbers. He has a pretty decent supporting cast (damn Gibson!), but his team was overall worse than the Pistons and the Nets too, imho. So it's not like he the easier thing in the world! Let's give him the props he deserves. Kobe is better, imho. I do agree with you. But there's only one place where to show it, and it's on the court. And there's only one thin that will shut the haters down: a 4th ring. Kobe knows it, and he knows that until he'll carry the Lakers on the NBA Finals by himself, people will continue to call him a selfish player who can't win titles / won titles because of Shaq. He knows it, that's why he's so confused and aggressive right now. I'm positive, not as positive as you but i'm pretty positive, man. But let's not stop the dream all the LeBron James' fans are living. Shit, i'm starting to like this kid too..

Wow man, major props for your maturity and perspective.  Peace

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

Yea, I pretty much agree with everything Antonio is saying, I'm just the one to voice my opinion when the hype becomes too much, not the one to sit back and watch people make outrageous claims when their favorite player is currently doing something great...PeACe