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Don Seer:

this aint anything new...

the US has permanent bases all over the world... like here in the UK. we let them have one...

and how about germany? both the US and UK have them since the second world war...

the US having a base in the middle east can act as a central location there for intelligence and attacking more muslims  8)

or as a dummy target for muslims to vent their hate campaigns at

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Seer - San on June 02, 2007, 02:13:23 AM ---
this aint anything new...

the US has permanent bases all over the world... like here in the UK. we let them have one...

and how about germany? both the US and UK have them since the second world war...

the US having a base in the middle east can act as a central location there for intelligence and attacking more muslims  8)

or as a dummy target for muslims to vent their hate campaigns at

--- End quote ---

They don't have one in Vietnam.

The point is, that all this talk people are having about when the United States is going to pull the troops out of Iraq is under false pretense.  Many American's are naive enough to believe that Bush's plan was actually to replace Sadaam with a democracy and then once that job was done then the troops would leave, or that if he fails at it the Democrats will put enough pressure on him to get him to get the troops to leave.  Neither of those scenario's have anything to do with the actual objective in Iraq. 

The only way there will be a real pull-out of Iraq is if there is Vietnam level casaulties that drive them out.

Elevz:

--- Quote from: Ted Is Unofficially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on June 01, 2007, 02:10:23 PM ---I just thought Bush was going to be a little more suttle about it. This is why we need to kick the Neo Cons out of office ASAP.
--- End quote ---

Why is that? If you've got the choice to vote for either the slick fox or the blatent wolf, would you prefer the fox because he doesn't openly SHOW his intentions? What difference does it make at the end of the day, when the fox might make you feel safe when you really aren't?
In other words, I really don't see why this lack of subtleness would be the reason for getting the neo cons out of the office. You tell me.

Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: 11z on June 02, 2007, 05:44:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ted Is Unofficially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on June 01, 2007, 02:10:23 PM ---I just thought Bush was going to be a little more suttle about it. This is why we need to kick the Neo Cons out of office ASAP.
--- End quote ---

Why is that? If you've got the choice to vote for either the slick fox or the blatent wolf, would you prefer the fox because he doesn't openly SHOW his intentions? What difference does it make at the end of the day, when the fox might make you feel safe when you really aren't?
In other words, I really don't see why this lack of subtleness would be the reason for getting the neo cons out of the office. You tell me.

--- End quote ---
My bad, poor choice of wording on my part. What I meant to say was him establishing a long term presence in Iraq (the situation as a whole) is the reason we need to kick the Neo Cons out of office. Not the lack of suttleness.

Elevz:
Okay! That does make sense :laugh:

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