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Geto Boys - Till Death Do Us Part

Don't know why, but this album is rarely or never mentioned here.And it's fuckin' GREAT.Insane production from top to bottom provided by N.O. Joe, and Big Mike & Scarface rip it apart with Bushwick holding his own too.

Overall, total package bangs hard  8)
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Haven't heard it, but Big Mike is a beast. Check his 'Still Serious' album, it's fucking awesome.
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Okay. I'll give you a reason why this album isn't a classic from top to bottom (bold applies here):

clas·sic (klăs'ĭk) pronunciation
adj.

   1.
         1. Belonging to the highest rank or class.
         2. Serving as the established model or standard: a classic example of colonial architecture.
         3. Having lasting significance or worth; enduring.
   2.
         1. Adhering or conforming to established standards and principles: a classic piece of research.
         2. Of a well-known type; typical: a classic mistake.
   3. Of or characteristic of the literature, art, and culture of ancient Greece and Rome; classical.
   4.
         1. Formal, refined, and restrained in style.
         2. Simple and harmonious; elegant: the classic cut of a suit; the classic lines of a clipper ship.
   5. Having historical or literary associations: classic battlefields of the Civil War.

n.

   1. An artist, author, or work generally considered to be of the highest rank or excellence, especially one of enduring significance.
   2. A work recognized as definitive in its field.
   3.
         1. A literary work of ancient Greece or Rome.
         2. classics The languages and literature of ancient Greece and Rome. Used with the.
         3. One that is of the highest rank or class: The car was a classic of automotive design.
   4. A typical or traditional example.
   5. Informal. A superior or unusual example of its kind: The reason he gave for being late was a classic.
   6. A traditional event, especially a major sporting event that is held annually: a golf classic.


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In other words: it may be an extremely nice album (I wouldn't know myself - I never was into the Geto Boys so I may have missed out), but this album surely doesn't serve as "the" established model or standard, and it doesn't have an enduring, lasting significance or worth. It's not recognised as definitive for hip-hop or gangstarap, and it's not a typical or traditional example as such either.

IMO the word classic doesn't apply here, but to call it a masterpiece perhaps would be right - I don't know 8)
 

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It IS a classic from a classic group.
 

StevenQBosell

....IMO the word classic doesn't apply here, but to call it a masterpiece perhaps would be right - I don't know 8)

That's a great point 11z, I beleive a lot more albums we call "classics" are probably more of a "masterpice"

Good distinction.
 

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Point taken 11z.I don't think anybody could argue that as far as impact and the stuff you pointed out this album can't compete with the greats, but as far as quality goes, I'm sure it can  8)
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because willie d wasn't on it
 

Elevz

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Point taken 11z.I don't think anybody could argue that as far as impact and the stuff you pointed out this album can't compete with the greats, but as far as quality goes, I'm sure it can  8)

Okay, so I will check this album out some time soon!
 

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never felt the production