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Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 14, 2007, 11:57:51 AMQuote from: teecee on June 14, 2007, 11:26:20 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 14, 2007, 10:16:39 AMQuote from: hisairness on June 14, 2007, 06:12:59 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 13, 2007, 05:26:58 PMLOL@Kobe demanding to be the star. Someone didn't watch basketball from 1999-2004...And it's not BabyG.Fact of the matter is, Duncan ISN'T currently the best on his team by a mile...Only an idiot would argue that.Kobe wanted to be the star from 99-04, but he couldn't because Shaq was too damn good. When Shaq slowed down, then he opened his mouth and blew his chances of winning anything.And again, Duncan is not the best player on his team statistically. But if you take him away, Parker doesn't get open looks. Ginobili doesn't get open looks. Bowen isn't as good on defense. The Spurs make the playoffs, but don't win any titles.Wow, you really know what's up, huh? Thanks for proving my point. LOL@"Kobe wanted to be the star." Kobe deferred to Shaq for years to win championships, when he coulda' been the first option on any other team...he even deferred to Shaq when he was the best player in the league...Shaq was too immature to not be the 1st option and he couldn't stand sharing the spotlight, even when he was obviously slowing down. He threatened to not rebound or play defense if the offense runs through Kobe (which Phil Jackson called for)...Kobe was the good guy in this.. as soon as Phil asked Kobe to back off cuz Shaq was being a baby, he did, with NO questions asked...I obviously know more on the situation, so please don't speak on it as if you know what you're saying when you really don't. Duncan is the best player on his team...But AGAIN, he has superstars surrounding him. Replace Dwight Howard with Tim Duncan, and Orlando would still be far from a championship team...One player doesn't win it all. EVER...PeACeYou are exactly right NIK, one player cannot win it all. Which is exactly why Cleveland never had a chance to win this series, and exactly why the Lakers will not go anywhere until they add a player or two, and Kobe learns to play team ball. And i love it how you act like you and Kobe are boys or something. Kobe doesn't know you, doesn't care about you, what makes you think you know more about his situation than everyone else??? Do you talk to him, or are your judgements based off what you see and hear in the media? I've read books by those within/close to the organization detailing the situation. I'm pretty sure you haven't...How is Kobe not a team player if he deferred for most of his career and sacrificed his game to win rings, while being able to lead any other team in the league? MAKE SENSE! Books are one-sided...much like your arguments.
Quote from: teecee on June 14, 2007, 11:26:20 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 14, 2007, 10:16:39 AMQuote from: hisairness on June 14, 2007, 06:12:59 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 13, 2007, 05:26:58 PMLOL@Kobe demanding to be the star. Someone didn't watch basketball from 1999-2004...And it's not BabyG.Fact of the matter is, Duncan ISN'T currently the best on his team by a mile...Only an idiot would argue that.Kobe wanted to be the star from 99-04, but he couldn't because Shaq was too damn good. When Shaq slowed down, then he opened his mouth and blew his chances of winning anything.And again, Duncan is not the best player on his team statistically. But if you take him away, Parker doesn't get open looks. Ginobili doesn't get open looks. Bowen isn't as good on defense. The Spurs make the playoffs, but don't win any titles.Wow, you really know what's up, huh? Thanks for proving my point. LOL@"Kobe wanted to be the star." Kobe deferred to Shaq for years to win championships, when he coulda' been the first option on any other team...he even deferred to Shaq when he was the best player in the league...Shaq was too immature to not be the 1st option and he couldn't stand sharing the spotlight, even when he was obviously slowing down. He threatened to not rebound or play defense if the offense runs through Kobe (which Phil Jackson called for)...Kobe was the good guy in this.. as soon as Phil asked Kobe to back off cuz Shaq was being a baby, he did, with NO questions asked...I obviously know more on the situation, so please don't speak on it as if you know what you're saying when you really don't. Duncan is the best player on his team...But AGAIN, he has superstars surrounding him. Replace Dwight Howard with Tim Duncan, and Orlando would still be far from a championship team...One player doesn't win it all. EVER...PeACeYou are exactly right NIK, one player cannot win it all. Which is exactly why Cleveland never had a chance to win this series, and exactly why the Lakers will not go anywhere until they add a player or two, and Kobe learns to play team ball. And i love it how you act like you and Kobe are boys or something. Kobe doesn't know you, doesn't care about you, what makes you think you know more about his situation than everyone else??? Do you talk to him, or are your judgements based off what you see and hear in the media? I've read books by those within/close to the organization detailing the situation. I'm pretty sure you haven't...How is Kobe not a team player if he deferred for most of his career and sacrificed his game to win rings, while being able to lead any other team in the league? MAKE SENSE!
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 14, 2007, 10:16:39 AMQuote from: hisairness on June 14, 2007, 06:12:59 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 13, 2007, 05:26:58 PMLOL@Kobe demanding to be the star. Someone didn't watch basketball from 1999-2004...And it's not BabyG.Fact of the matter is, Duncan ISN'T currently the best on his team by a mile...Only an idiot would argue that.Kobe wanted to be the star from 99-04, but he couldn't because Shaq was too damn good. When Shaq slowed down, then he opened his mouth and blew his chances of winning anything.And again, Duncan is not the best player on his team statistically. But if you take him away, Parker doesn't get open looks. Ginobili doesn't get open looks. Bowen isn't as good on defense. The Spurs make the playoffs, but don't win any titles.Wow, you really know what's up, huh? Thanks for proving my point. LOL@"Kobe wanted to be the star." Kobe deferred to Shaq for years to win championships, when he coulda' been the first option on any other team...he even deferred to Shaq when he was the best player in the league...Shaq was too immature to not be the 1st option and he couldn't stand sharing the spotlight, even when he was obviously slowing down. He threatened to not rebound or play defense if the offense runs through Kobe (which Phil Jackson called for)...Kobe was the good guy in this.. as soon as Phil asked Kobe to back off cuz Shaq was being a baby, he did, with NO questions asked...I obviously know more on the situation, so please don't speak on it as if you know what you're saying when you really don't. Duncan is the best player on his team...But AGAIN, he has superstars surrounding him. Replace Dwight Howard with Tim Duncan, and Orlando would still be far from a championship team...One player doesn't win it all. EVER...PeACeYou are exactly right NIK, one player cannot win it all. Which is exactly why Cleveland never had a chance to win this series, and exactly why the Lakers will not go anywhere until they add a player or two, and Kobe learns to play team ball. And i love it how you act like you and Kobe are boys or something. Kobe doesn't know you, doesn't care about you, what makes you think you know more about his situation than everyone else??? Do you talk to him, or are your judgements based off what you see and hear in the media?
Quote from: hisairness on June 14, 2007, 06:12:59 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on June 13, 2007, 05:26:58 PMLOL@Kobe demanding to be the star. Someone didn't watch basketball from 1999-2004...And it's not BabyG.Fact of the matter is, Duncan ISN'T currently the best on his team by a mile...Only an idiot would argue that.Kobe wanted to be the star from 99-04, but he couldn't because Shaq was too damn good. When Shaq slowed down, then he opened his mouth and blew his chances of winning anything.And again, Duncan is not the best player on his team statistically. But if you take him away, Parker doesn't get open looks. Ginobili doesn't get open looks. Bowen isn't as good on defense. The Spurs make the playoffs, but don't win any titles.Wow, you really know what's up, huh? Thanks for proving my point. LOL@"Kobe wanted to be the star." Kobe deferred to Shaq for years to win championships, when he coulda' been the first option on any other team...he even deferred to Shaq when he was the best player in the league...Shaq was too immature to not be the 1st option and he couldn't stand sharing the spotlight, even when he was obviously slowing down. He threatened to not rebound or play defense if the offense runs through Kobe (which Phil Jackson called for)...Kobe was the good guy in this.. as soon as Phil asked Kobe to back off cuz Shaq was being a baby, he did, with NO questions asked...I obviously know more on the situation, so please don't speak on it as if you know what you're saying when you really don't. Duncan is the best player on his team...But AGAIN, he has superstars surrounding him. Replace Dwight Howard with Tim Duncan, and Orlando would still be far from a championship team...One player doesn't win it all. EVER...PeACe
Quote from: Now_I_Know on June 13, 2007, 05:26:58 PMLOL@Kobe demanding to be the star. Someone didn't watch basketball from 1999-2004...And it's not BabyG.Fact of the matter is, Duncan ISN'T currently the best on his team by a mile...Only an idiot would argue that.Kobe wanted to be the star from 99-04, but he couldn't because Shaq was too damn good. When Shaq slowed down, then he opened his mouth and blew his chances of winning anything.And again, Duncan is not the best player on his team statistically. But if you take him away, Parker doesn't get open looks. Ginobili doesn't get open looks. Bowen isn't as good on defense. The Spurs make the playoffs, but don't win any titles.
LOL@Kobe demanding to be the star. Someone didn't watch basketball from 1999-2004...And it's not BabyG.Fact of the matter is, Duncan ISN'T currently the best on his team by a mile...Only an idiot would argue that.
If somebody wrote a book from inside the organization it was taken from Shaq's perspective or Kobe's perspective, not from a neutral perspective.