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Does the society make a person happy, or do they make themselves happy?
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on July 07, 2007, 05:40:18 PM ---
That didn't make much sense. You will continue to receive more bills regardless... I don't know how forcing yourself to like paying bills will bring you wealth or anything else you desire LOL.... you can't subconsciously create a way to attain things if they're not attainable. If you want money, you go fucking work. All those people buying lottery tickets are attracted to the jackpot, but just because their minds are attracted to it, doesn't mean they're all going to win. Like I said before... some things are within your reach and control, and some aren't.... lying to yourself isn't going to help you.
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Believe me, I understand your point fully. I was simply explaining the concept because someone asked what it was all about.
However, I do think there is some truth to it. Because thoughts are things. The things we think about often manifest themselves physically. Knowing this, encourages us to pay greater attention to our thoughts, and if we improve the quality of our thoughts, then it is likely that our physical life will improve.
This concept is backed by the Qu'ran. Allah says in Qu'ran verse 13:11 that he will "not change the condition of a person until they first change that which is within themselves." -------that's a similar concept bro. Do you see the parallels?
Chief:
it's called a diamond in the rough.
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on July 07, 2007, 01:42:33 PM ---I also don't buy that bullshit they try to sell you in that book/movie "The Secret"
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Seriously, "The Secret"-the way I see it- is just another way to blame the poor for being poor and praise the rich for being rich....It basically sayes "look if u're poor it's cause of the law of attraction, you brought it on yourself by thinking negative...the oil companies and the president are not to blame". I think it's just an attempt at fancy state capitalist propaganda.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on July 08, 2007, 05:56:05 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on July 07, 2007, 05:40:18 PM ---
That didn't make much sense. You will continue to receive more bills regardless... I don't know how forcing yourself to like paying bills will bring you wealth or anything else you desire LOL.... you can't subconsciously create a way to attain things if they're not attainable. If you want money, you go fucking work. All those people buying lottery tickets are attracted to the jackpot, but just because their minds are attracted to it, doesn't mean they're all going to win. Like I said before... some things are within your reach and control, and some aren't.... lying to yourself isn't going to help you.
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Believe me, I understand your point fully. I was simply explaining the concept because someone asked what it was all about.
However, I do think there is some truth to it. Because thoughts are things. The things we think about often manifest themselves physically. Knowing this, encourages us to pay greater attention to our thoughts, and if we improve the quality of our thoughts, then it is likely that our physical life will improve.
This concept is backed by the Qu'ran. Allah says in Qu'ran verse 13:11 that he will "not change the condition of a person until they first change that which is within themselves." -------that's a similar concept bro. Do you see the parallels?
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Things will manifest themselves physically regardless of whether you think about them or not... you thinking about them doesn't do anything... now if you think about them, think of a way to attain them, and then work towards that goal, that's different... but simply thinking about something isn't going to make it manifest physically... if it does, it would have regardless of your thoughts.
lol @ the concept is backed by the Qur'an... that quote has nothing at all to do with the law of attraction... read 13:10 and then the lines you omitted in 13:11 that preceed the one you just pulled... no parallel... sorry bro. It's saying that Allah will not change one's condition unless they personally make a genuine effort themselves to strive for that change.... same shit I said about if you want something and think about it, then you gotta figure a way to attain it, and work towards it.
Elevz:
--- Quote from: Frisco Niggaz aint no Punks on July 07, 2007, 01:29:29 PM ---Happiness is an emotional or affective state that is characterized by feelings of enjoyment and satisfaction. It is not a decision.
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That all depends on how much you control emotion. All that emotion is, is the outcome of a sum of internal and external factors. The internal is what you value, the external is what happens to the things you value. The result is emotion.
With that being said, do you control your values? Do you have a will that's free enough to decide what you do like and what you don't like? Because that would give you more or less control over your emotions. By holding on to the right values, you can make yourself happy.
--- Quote from: Frisco Niggaz aint no Punks on July 07, 2007, 01:29:29 PM ---If you have a lot of things, you're not going to just be settled, you're gonna want more. In that case you'll never be happy because you won't reach a limit on the things that will make you happy. If you don't have a lot of things, you're always gonna be bothered about not having enough and you're going to be constantly fighting for new things.
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So the only way to be happy, is by reaching your limits, knowing there's no going any further?
It shouldn't all be that hard to grasp. Of course, everyone's a part of society, and that's definately what shapes us. Everything that surrounds you is what becomes you. One doesn't choose to differ; you'll have to learn how to choose to differ first. That knowledge is also something your environment will have to provide you with. In a way, all the options we have come from all that surrounds us. They are what feeds our external influences.
At the same time, everyone has a mind of their own. You were born with the capacity to judge external influences, and use that knowledge. In other words: yes, society does provide you with all the ingredients, but it's totally up to the individual to start the process of being happy.
It's all about standards really. Why do you think people with down syndrome often are so incredibly happy? That's because they've learned to value something as small as a flower. They don't even have to bother with quantum mechanics and a highly paid job in the lab to live up to their expectations. They know no better; their values don't reach any further.
Now what I'm saying is most definately not for everyone to start dumbing yourselves down or anything likewise. The opposite would be more fitting, because since we are thinking human beings, we can't escape that. Learn about morals, philosophy and the world we live in. It'll show you there's an alternative to the depressing state of society. It'll give you the answers to altering your inner self, so you'll be armed against all those possible negative external influences. I guess my answer has become very clear by now... If people don't make themselves happy, who will do it for them?
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