Lifestyle > Train of Thought
Does the society make a person happy, or do they make themselves happy?
7even:
The only way you can force happiness is doing heroin.
AndrE16686:
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on July 14, 2007, 12:46:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: ZILLA THE GOODFELLA on July 07, 2007, 12:58:11 PM ---HAPPINESS IS A DECISION, NOT AN EMOTION.
--- End quote ---
^^^ I strongly disagree. Happiness is an involuntary emotion, that is a response to events that either are in conflict or in harmony with your inner person.
--- End quote ---
If you are thinking of happiness as reacting with laughter to a funny joke, then that is one form of happiness, but a very basic, superficial part of happiness. What 11 to 3 said about the downsyndrome kid was interesting, the kid is happy just wit the flower, more 'intelligent' people decide they need certain things and to do certain things to be happy. I think if you convince yourself that happiness is a certain thing, feeling, situation, etc you will not be happy, when it is actually alot more simple yet profound. I think a part of it is being down with yourself, recognising that you can be happy and peaceful without shit to complement you, we seem to build up a big definition of ourselves about who we are like 'I'm black/white wear this shit, like this shit, I got this type of personality, I down with this, wit them, I would do this in that situation, etc' Part of that inner peace is recognising that you are, regardless of that mental picture of yourself.
ekmek:
--- Quote from: Frisco Niggaz aint no Punks on July 07, 2007, 05:00:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Shakur Abdul-Latif's Definition Of Hip-Hop..by -Infinite- on July 07, 2007, 02:56:27 PM ---
--- Quote from: Frisco Niggaz aint no Punks on July 07, 2007, 02:20:25 PM ---
What is that? The "Secret" you're talking about.
--- End quote ---
It's a book and video that has become really popular. It teaches about the law of attraction. Which basically means, the thoughts that go on inside your mind dictate your reality.
For example, if you get a bill in the mail, and you think about how angry you are that you got a bill in the mail, then you will continue to recieve more bills that you don't like.
But on the other hand, if you think about how happy you are that you got something, or visualize yourself getting happiness, wealth, or having anything you desire, then your mind will become attracted to that thing and it will subconsciously create a way for you to attain it.
...there's definitely some truth to all that.
--- End quote ---
So if I imagine myself liking school (which is almost impossible for me) I will start to really like it and start going more?
--- End quote ---
i think he means that if you think positive everything will be ok.when you think negative shit happens all the time
QuietTruth:
--- Quote from: 7even on July 14, 2007, 02:59:44 AM ---The only way you can force happiness is doing heroin.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but that don't even make ya happy.
TraceOneInfinite:
Okay.. I started this thread.. I read everyone's posts...it seems there's an argument on whether or not you can make yourself happy... now I want to finally post my own thoughts.
The Idea You Can Make Yourself Happy
^^I used to agree with that....
When it comes to psychology I used to favor the teachings of James Redfield the most. And like many of these new school psychologists they are all into the "thinking positive" concept although ofcourse his knowledge wasn't simply that, it was much broader in it's scope, however, for the sake of this discussion.. let me just classify him in that "power of positive thinking" category that seems to be popular these days, for example, you got Russel Simmons has a best selling book right now about Yoga teachings which I'd also throw into that "power of positive thinking" category (although, again, ofcourse it's much deeper than that).
The Idea That Happiness Is An Involuntary Emotion
^^... now I agree with this one ^^
Now I'm more into the psychology that Harry Browne expresses in his revolutionary book "How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World". This book is one of a kind. He points out that happiness is a involuntary emotion. And if we force ourselves to think positive and try to cover up emotions we are uncomfortable with or consider socially unacceptable, then we may actually be hiding valuable information from ourselves that may indicate to us the path we truly want to take with our life.
He points out another vital error in the teachings of "positive thinking" guru's like the James Redfields of the world and the people that made "The Secret". Basically, they are restricting their own freedom, because in their positive thinking visions, they imagine that they already have the things that they want, or the woman or man they want for a relationship. The problem with that is, we only have control over our own life, and not the lives of other people, so as long as our dreams involve commitments from other people, we will never be free, because we will be dependent on them. Harry Browne teaches to live your life exactly the way you want it, but with a clear understanding that you can only effect your own life and not others.
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[#] Next page
[*] Previous page
Go to full version