New XXL blog on 'Detox' - Dre was planned for 10th anniversary cover

[Larrabee]

He should at least drop a single to hold us over until the actual release date.

Problem is, when Dre is producing a project the first single is usually the last or the next to last song recorded.

[D-Reborn]

the more he delay it, the better he'll gotta make it

 

[Matty]

it's been a loooong and drawn out process but i think it is actually coming. a good amount of the record is probably complete by now, its just the final direction and all the tinkering/mastering and singles that need ironing out now....there has been 0 official news on the project, so nobody can say dre said this dre said that etc. he said he's been working on it, bishop shouted 'detox, september bitches' on that myspace clip with dre right next to him but at the end of the day you knew it was gonna take a little longer.

i think providing 50 stat and eminem drop within the next 8 months, we'll quickly be seeing either bishop or dre lined up to release their albums next year. if detox doesn't come out next year then i don't think its ever gonna be released now...having said that i think it will, i'm just curious to see what kind of sound we'll be getting as to be fair dre's latest stuff has been all over the place. from snoop's round here to stat's here we go it's been a mixed bag.

i still think outta control rmx is the hottest beat dre has dropped in a long ass time, its got that addictive dre sound to it with more futuristic elements such as the crazy bassline. fat chance that was a leftover from the massacre. i'm looking for those kind of crisp productions but with more melodies and more elements. an album of that with all the usual suspects would be something worth waiting for. then again it might be completely different, but whatever the sound it's the quality of the music that this is ultimately gonna boil down to. i can safely say that tracks like imagine are timeless productions and would fit in on a detox recorded at any stage.

[Sir Petey]

I heard that hes struggling with the idea of releasing this album in the climate the rap game is in right now...he dont want his shit getting bootlegged on the internet...the only rapper Ive ever seen beat the bootleg hustle is TI on his King album...he realeased a few phony editions on the net to confuse the bootleggers when the real shit hit retail no one had heard it yet.

[Tanjential]

I heard that hes struggling with the idea of releasing this album in the climate the rap game is in right now...he dont want his shit getting bootlegged on the internet...the only rapper Ive ever seen beat the bootleg hustle is TI on his King album...he realeased a few phony editions on the net to confuse the bootleggers when the real shit hit retail no one had heard it yet.

the mars volta does that shit too.

honestly, I can wait. I want it to be perfect and to Dre's liking. I certainly don't have all the music I want in my collection. so until you have no more new music to acquire...you really can't bitch.

BUT these rappers he fucks with like Raekwon, Eminem, and Bishop? It ain't like producing or even musicianing/singing...you can't be 45 and rapping. I wouldn't care but it just wouldn't fly. Rae, Em and Bishop need to drop before they get too old. Bishop has NO buzz...he had a buzz for a second, but the thrill is gone. My only criticism of dre is that he's doing a big disfavor to his artists by

)not dropping their records
)not producing whole albums

-T

[KURUPTION-81]

Dont agree with that blog im sure he will be the first to complain if the album is garbage.

[EastsideLBC]

Does any1 even have any info or ideas on who will show up on "Detox"!? Game? DPG? Snoop?............etc.............

[Tanjential]

Does any1 even have any info or ideas on who will show up on "Detox"!? Game? DPG? Snoop?............etc.............

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dre claims he's recollaborating with most past collaborators and there have been heavy rumors that Dre wants Game/50 on a track.

he's also co-producing with everyone from his old collaborators like Mel-man, storch etc. to other legends like DJ Premier and possibly Rza.

-T

[Sir Petey]

if anyone really thinks that game is gonna be on detox your lying to yourself.

[EastsideLBC]

if anyone really thinks that game is gonna be on detox your lying to yourself.

I think Game will be on "Detox".........u know Snoop real tight with Game and U know Dre gonna have Snoop on the record........in my opinion I think Snoop will have some pull to get Game a verse or two on "Detox"........

[Detox Is A Myth!!!]

I'm not going to rhyme this post because I want to be serious for this post.

I don't think Detox will live up to the expectations.  I'm expecting either:

A) You know how Dre and DOC say expect the unexpected?  Well, it might be something TOO different for fans to swallow, you know?  Like Kingdom Come was just too different from Jay's other albums.  Dre might be trying to create something "different" like Kingdom Come was a complete left turn from Jay's usual sound, but will that necessarily be a good thing?  Some diehards will go along with it, but most people, especially young people who weren't even around when The Chronic dropped, will think it's WACK.  I mean, it's not going to be gangsta gangsta, so what if it's singing and gospel and stuff like that with rapping over it.  It might be just TOO different for its own good.

B) There is also just this possibility -- I'm not sure Dre has it in him anymore to make a new sound that changes the game type of masterpiece.  I mean, musicians are just like athletes and filmmakers and anybody else who's creative.  As you get older, you lose your skills.  The athlete, musician, whatever, might still think in his opinion that he still has it, but everybody else will recognize the fall off.  I mean, seriously -- some of the beats that "perfectionist" Dre releases nowadays just plain aren't examples of "perfection".  How is this possible?  Dre might have lost his skill, but not even realize it, and all the artists who work with him just go along with his beats because this is still a business after all, and Dre beats = $, regardless of whether the artist knows deep down that the beat ain't all that.  Nearly everybody agrees that The Chronic was better than 2001, and I think 2001 will be better than Detox.  Judging from history, it's just the way the trajectory goes.

C) A combination of A and B.

I'm thinking option C.  What I'm unsure about is the percentages of the mixture of elements A and B.

[Tanjential]

I'm not going to rhyme this post because I want to be serious for this post.

I don't think Detox will live up to the expectations.  I'm expecting either:

A) You know how Dre and DOC say expect the unexpected?  Well, it might be something TOO different for fans to swallow, you know?  Like Kingdom Come was just too different from Jay's other albums.  Dre might be trying to create something "different" like Kingdom Come was a complete left turn from Jay's usual sound, but will that necessarily be a good thing?  Some diehards will go along with it, but most people, especially young people who weren't even around when The Chronic dropped, will think it's WACK.  I mean, it's not going to be gangsta gangsta, so what if it's singing and gospel and stuff like that with rapping over it.  It might be just TOO different for its own good.

B) There is also just this possibility -- I'm not sure Dre has it in him anymore to make a new sound that changes the game type of masterpiece.  I mean, musicians are just like athletes and filmmakers and anybody else who's creative.  As you get older, you lose your skills.  The athlete, musician, whatever, might still think in his opinion that he still has it, but everybody else will recognize the fall off.  I mean, seriously -- some of the beats that "perfectionist" Dre releases nowadays just plain aren't examples of "perfection".  How is this possible?  Dre might have lost his skill, but not even realize it, and all the artists who work with him just go along with his beats because this is still a business after all, and Dre beats = $, regardless of whether the artist knows deep down that the beat ain't all that.  Nearly everybody agrees that The Chronic was better than 2001, and I think 2001 will be better than Detox.  Judging from history, it's just the way the trajectory goes.

C) A combination of A and B.

I'm thinking option C.  What I'm unsure about is the percentages of the mixture of elements A and B.

Dre still has the skill to make an individual tight beat/song/production, but the question that I'm sure he's even asking himself is does he have the skill to put together a consistently dope and cohesive album length statement.

Dre is more concerned with commercializing his music these days than perfecting it. That said, whereas you're worried it will be too original and unpopular I worry it will be too popular/commercial and not enough originality/creativity/artistry. In other words, my concern is the reverse of your option A.

-T

[spencer05]

detox is gonna be great.  reasons why it is and why your reasons are bullshit...random from everyone i think is wrong.
numbers are in no order just points

1.game will be on detox. 
did you forget dre signed game?  his public beef with 50 prevented dre from producing with game  or else 50 would be pissed, and 50 is almost as rich as dre, so i think he listened.  if dre is taking 7 years to drop detox, exactly how he wants it, do u think a beef between his army will stop him from putting game on his album...he already cosigned him with documentary and signing the kid, he has faith in how game can spit, fuck 50, this is dres album and he knows that.
2.  fuck skills getting worst with time.  producing music and rapping doesnt require any muscles or youth, just your mind.   they can tweak his voice anyway they like. so  yeah, physically he wont be
able to tour or dance as much, but really?  bob dylan over 40 albums, rolling stones, neil diamond, bruce springstein,  ray charles, stevie wonder, all the GREATS and people that DOMINATE their industry are still doin it.  there are plenty of great actors who are old, so dont even try that.  hell farve is still starting , what 7 years after he played in the SB when he was 30somthing?  bonds just broke the record...hes over 40.  new wu tang album....oh shit the Wu is old now, they are over 30 35.....your right, the new wu tang album is gonna suck too.  eminem kinda fell off with age also.  just like hugh heftner's game fell off when he turned 60.....ha     do you really think every musical masterpeice came from someone under 40?   there are craftsmen who work till they die becasue they masterd a craft.  hip hop music is his craft, and by his track record, he masterd it.  he was involved in most huge hip hop artists lately.  EM, 50, game, Snoop, 2pac, jay z, nas,  BUSTA, X,
he isnt responsible for lil wayne, TI jeezy, kanye, fab, who else is hot...or ws hot in the last 10 years...the superstars in the game know dr dre personally.   

there were some other points but i got on the phone and dont wanna reread everything.

whoever said lock crooked i in the studio with dre...good idea.  too bad dre already thought of that. 
go here:
http://www.nobodysmiling.com/hiphop/play-audio.php?rid=86658&path=crooked_I-Say_DRDre

its crooked ghostwriting for dre.  there were reports a while ago when the song was release as to how it leaked.  i guess dre sent over a beat to deathrow to have crooked spit on it.  he did and sent it back, but in the meantime someone else already had a copy and leaked it...now its on a crooked mixtape.....anyway its pretty good, try and hear dre instead of crooked

anyway those are my thoughts....i agree with him taking his time....just pretend like he didnt say it was coming out....pretend hes on vacation....when he comes back, hes gonna be bigger than HOV (sales and hype and radio domination for years)