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dude, people need to get over all this stealing shit...so much rap has basically copied old funk anyways...both these albums heavily sampled older tracks, and basically used older concepts. Thats music, people like what they listen to and try to evolve it. "It Was a Good Day" by cube produced by cube uses pretty much the same exact beat as the Isley Brothers song...u could basically say Pooh stole that beat. And the same goes for hundreds of beats. And then look how many albums and producers copied the style of Dre's 2001. People get influenced in music, and that is how it is. Dre made a masterpiece w/ the chronic, and u would be an idiot to say that he didn't have any influence on it. He had tons of old school funk influence...not BML influence. Both albums were influenced by the same music, which also influenced hundreds of other albums.
Quote from: acgrundy on July 17, 2007, 06:38:00 PMdude, people need to get over all this stealing shit...so much rap has basically copied old funk anyways...both these albums heavily sampled older tracks, and basically used older concepts. Thats music, people like what they listen to and try to evolve it. "It Was a Good Day" by cube produced by cube uses pretty much the same exact beat as the Isley Brothers song...u could basically say Pooh stole that beat. And the same goes for hundreds of beats. And then look how many albums and producers copied the style of Dre's 2001. People get influenced in music, and that is how it is. Dre made a masterpiece w/ the chronic, and u would be an idiot to say that he didn't have any influence on it. He had tons of old school funk influence...not BML influence. Both albums were influenced by the same music, which also influenced hundreds of other albums.i think the difference here is that cold 187 aka big hutch has said many times before that dre heard early versions of black mafia life and then goes and records the chronic right afterwards.....i would call that more than a coincidence, and its not about influence, its about taking someones idea and claiming it as your own.....did dre use those samples better? absolutely. did he think to use those samples prior to hearing hutch use the same exact ones? thats up for debate........
Quote from: CHUCK KNOXXX on July 17, 2007, 06:43:01 PMQuote from: acgrundy on July 17, 2007, 06:38:00 PMdude, people need to get over all this stealing shit...so much rap has basically copied old funk anyways...both these albums heavily sampled older tracks, and basically used older concepts. Thats music, people like what they listen to and try to evolve it. "It Was a Good Day" by cube produced by cube uses pretty much the same exact beat as the Isley Brothers song...u could basically say Pooh stole that beat. And the same goes for hundreds of beats. And then look how many albums and producers copied the style of Dre's 2001. People get influenced in music, and that is how it is. Dre made a masterpiece w/ the chronic, and u would be an idiot to say that he didn't have any influence on it. He had tons of old school funk influence...not BML influence. Both albums were influenced by the same music, which also influenced hundreds of other albums.i think the difference here is that cold 187 aka big hutch has said many times before that dre heard early versions of black mafia life and then goes and records the chronic right afterwards.....i would call that more than a coincidence, and its not about influence, its about taking someones idea and claiming it as your own.....did dre use those samples better? absolutely. did he think to use those samples prior to hearing hutch use the same exact ones? thats up for debate........who knows if dre or hutch got the idea first. Hell, there could be hundreds of people who do music, who had the idea, but didn't do anything with it. Maybe because they were lazy, had no connections, didn't know how, were afraid it might not work, etc. The point is people come up w/ ideas all the time, and people copy off ideas all the time. How many different companies have copied the IPOD? Dozens. But what is the most know? The Apple Ipod. Some people may like BML more than the Chronic, but for the most part the chronic is way more popular. Who cares if someone copies an idea, that shit happens all the time, its what you do with the idea. Shit happens in music, movies, tv, video games, businesses, its life. If you think you are the first person to come up with an idea, you most likely are wrong. The music that was sampled on those albums had been out for 10+ years, chances are someone thought of those ideas even before dre and hutch.
another thought I wanted to add was that this WAS the ruthless chronic effectively. in the sense that it had some of the only things missing from the chronic that would have made it out of this world dope like Eazy, 2pac, and Ren. if one of the two records had cube, those two discs would be the 2 most essential discs in west coast rap.-T