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Quote from: *Z* on July 27, 2007, 08:11:43 AMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 27, 2007, 06:44:48 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 26, 2007, 02:01:48 PMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subjectso why you decided not to become one?becuz if you study psychology youre done in 3 years and then the only thing you can do is givin advises to people and consulting...id rather be a psychotherapist cuz then i can prescribe medecine and resolve more complicated cases...but then id have to study psychology for 3 years and medecine for 6 years and i dont wanna be 30 when im done studyinghow long did you study and where? and how is your career going?I completed the first three years, so that's still the bachelor period. Next year, I'm gonna do a 1-year specialization period for clinical psychologist. After that, I'm pretty much ready for work, but I still gotta follow more internal courses then. I think the system here is a little bit different from where you live. Here, a psychologist (or a psychotherapist) will never be able to prescribe medicines. In order to do that, you gotta study medicines and become a psychiatrist.
Quote from: Robert de Negro on July 27, 2007, 06:44:48 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 26, 2007, 02:01:48 PMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subjectso why you decided not to become one?becuz if you study psychology youre done in 3 years and then the only thing you can do is givin advises to people and consulting...id rather be a psychotherapist cuz then i can prescribe medecine and resolve more complicated cases...but then id have to study psychology for 3 years and medecine for 6 years and i dont wanna be 30 when im done studyinghow long did you study and where? and how is your career going?
Quote from: *Z* on July 26, 2007, 02:01:48 PMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subjectso why you decided not to become one?
Quote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subject
I am a psychologist
Quote from: Robert de Negro on July 29, 2007, 09:33:03 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 27, 2007, 08:11:43 AMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 27, 2007, 06:44:48 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 26, 2007, 02:01:48 PMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subjectso why you decided not to become one?becuz if you study psychology youre done in 3 years and then the only thing you can do is givin advises to people and consulting...id rather be a psychotherapist cuz then i can prescribe medecine and resolve more complicated cases...but then id have to study psychology for 3 years and medecine for 6 years and i dont wanna be 30 when im done studyinghow long did you study and where? and how is your career going?I completed the first three years, so that's still the bachelor period. Next year, I'm gonna do a 1-year specialization period for clinical psychologist. After that, I'm pretty much ready for work, but I still gotta follow more internal courses then. I think the system here is a little bit different from where you live. Here, a psychologist (or a psychotherapist) will never be able to prescribe medicines. In order to do that, you gotta study medicines and become a psychiatrist. yea the systems seem to be completely different...but its cool youre studying it...you must know a lot of things about it now...im almost jealous lol
Quote from: *Z* on July 29, 2007, 10:07:07 AMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 29, 2007, 09:33:03 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 27, 2007, 08:11:43 AMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 27, 2007, 06:44:48 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 26, 2007, 02:01:48 PMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subjectso why you decided not to become one?becuz if you study psychology youre done in 3 years and then the only thing you can do is givin advises to people and consulting...id rather be a psychotherapist cuz then i can prescribe medecine and resolve more complicated cases...but then id have to study psychology for 3 years and medecine for 6 years and i dont wanna be 30 when im done studyinghow long did you study and where? and how is your career going?I completed the first three years, so that's still the bachelor period. Next year, I'm gonna do a 1-year specialization period for clinical psychologist. After that, I'm pretty much ready for work, but I still gotta follow more internal courses then. I think the system here is a little bit different from where you live. Here, a psychologist (or a psychotherapist) will never be able to prescribe medicines. In order to do that, you gotta study medicines and become a psychiatrist. yea the systems seem to be completely different...but its cool youre studying it...you must know a lot of things about it now...im almost jealous lolTrue, where you from actually? I'm from Holland.
Quote from: Robert de Negro on July 31, 2007, 02:59:43 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 29, 2007, 10:07:07 AMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 29, 2007, 09:33:03 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 27, 2007, 08:11:43 AMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 27, 2007, 06:44:48 AMQuote from: *Z* on July 26, 2007, 02:01:48 PMQuote from: Robert de Negro on July 26, 2007, 11:21:15 AMI am a psychologist i thought of becoming one and read loads of books on that subjectso why you decided not to become one?becuz if you study psychology youre done in 3 years and then the only thing you can do is givin advises to people and consulting...id rather be a psychotherapist cuz then i can prescribe medecine and resolve more complicated cases...but then id have to study psychology for 3 years and medecine for 6 years and i dont wanna be 30 when im done studyinghow long did you study and where? and how is your career going?I completed the first three years, so that's still the bachelor period. Next year, I'm gonna do a 1-year specialization period for clinical psychologist. After that, I'm pretty much ready for work, but I still gotta follow more internal courses then. I think the system here is a little bit different from where you live. Here, a psychologist (or a psychotherapist) will never be able to prescribe medicines. In order to do that, you gotta study medicines and become a psychiatrist. yea the systems seem to be completely different...but its cool youre studying it...you must know a lot of things about it now...im almost jealous lolTrue, where you from actually? I'm from Holland. im from Germany, neighbor.
Suggestion for people who have became despondentIf your depressed it's probably because you are not doing what you want with your life. If you experience hardship while doing what you want, then you will step up to the challenge, knowing that it is a consequence of doing what you want to do, and you will take pride in that.However, if you are doing something that you don't want, and adversity comes, you will inevitably become depressed.There are many traps that keep us from doing what we want with our lives. For me it was 3 that I would usually get caught up in before I became aware of them. They were as follows...1. The identity trap. This is the belief that in order to live your life the way you want to you have to make others understand you. In reality, there are people out there who already understand you, and you would be better off seeking them instead of trying to "change" others.2. The despair trap. This is the belief that others can prevent you from doing what you want with your life. This is also a false assumption, there is a price you can pay to gain back control of your life. It may be a great price, but more often then not, it is actually less then you assumed it to be, once a sincere attempt is made.3. The previous investment trap. This one is the worst. Because we feel bitter about mistakes we may have made in the past, we continue on doing something we don't want to be doing, because we've already invested time, money, or energy into that thing. This is also an erroneous assumption, because we can never do away with the past, what's done is done, the only thing that can make us happy from this point forward is how we deal with the present.
People can get depressed, even though they're happy with what they're doing. There are way more factors, like social, cultural, biological and psychological factors playing a role in the development of a depression.
What social factors? Like people wanting them to be something they are not, and the person trying to live up to that? That's what I said was the identity trap. Limiting ourselves to one group of people who don't accept us, when we are all unique individuals and there are other people out there who will appreciate us as we are if we just look for those people and stop wasting our time trying to convince others to understand us.l
What cultural factors? Like pressure to follow cultural ways we don't believe in ourselves? That's the moral trap. You are following someone else's moral standards. But everyone has a choice to make if they are going to follow their own moral standards or standards someone else has given them, either way, the are still making the ultimate choice. And therefore, one purpose of truth is so that we can better understand the identity of things so that we can better predict outcomes that can be useful for us. And morality is often used so that we don't make a mistake in the present that could sacrifice what we really want for the future. So therefore, in that respect, if a person insists on following a cultural practice that they don't agree with and doesn't work for them, then they are head first in the morality and identity trap.
What biological factors? Again, if you think your biological factors don't meet someone else's standards then you are in the identity trap. There are 6 billion people in the world. You only have to find several of them who understand and love and respect you and you can have a good life. So accept yourself for who you are. Also, once you have accepted yourself for who you are, then you will better understand what things make you happy and what you enjoy. Then you can maximize your time by spending each day involved with those things you love and enjoy as much as possible and work to cut everything else out of your life that doesn't correspond with it.
When I'm talking about biological factors, I'm talking about genetic factors and neurochemical factors. People who develop a depression have a certain biological predisposition, whereby their biological makeup differs from healthy people. They have lower levels of serotonin and dopamine for example.
Quote from: Robert de Negro on August 02, 2007, 01:32:42 AMWhen I'm talking about biological factors, I'm talking about genetic factors and neurochemical factors. People who develop a depression have a certain biological predisposition, whereby their biological makeup differs from healthy people. They have lower levels of serotonin and dopamine for example. Finally someone who knows what he talks about. I'm getting sick of people who don't realize how a brain works and who think literally everthing in life is "an attitude thing"...
That could be a factor, but it's not the only social factor playing a role. The main social factor is the occurence of a stressful life event, the loss of a loved one.
When I'm talking about biological factors, I'm talking about genetic factors and neurochemical factors. People who develop a depression have a certain biological predisposition, whereby their biological makeup differs from healthy people. They have lower levels of serotonin and dopamine for example. And again, there are also cognitive (psychological) distortions of influence. People who have a negative self-precept, who experience the world as hostile and who expect no further improvenents in the future are extra vulnerable for the development of a depression. The way they interpret situations may be causal for a depression. This has nothing to do with living up to the expectations of others. It could be one factor of influence, but it can never explain the whole depression.
like losing a job or