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I gotta side with NIK on this 1...that jordan push was a foul
i'd say baseball umps have more power to take over games.
Quote from: Lunatic 63 on July 27, 2007, 04:49:28 PMI gotta side with NIK on this 1...that jordan push was a foulLMFAO@reading the post above yours, followed by yours...Then people wonder why they're nuthuggers.
"A ref has more power than a coach or a player to determine the outcome of a basketball game"-Mike Mathis, NBA ref 1976-2001. Head of NBA Officiating Union for 11 years.
Quote from: ^ReLentLess^ on July 27, 2007, 03:08:28 PMthe superstars will get the call or non-call 99% of the time though...its always been that way and always will be...did MJ push off? absolutely. Refs miss calls in every game,in every sport.favoritism no doubt, but its not a scandal.Exactly. It's a flaw in the system and why NBA officiating has fallen apart, the fact that we've come to accept that...Also, hated superstars do not get the same treatment, no matter how good they are.Something needs to be done.It's not in every sport, basketball is the only sport where someone falling with the closest person being 2-3 feet can be called a foul AND have it be accepted with no consequences whatsoever for the official responsible...Refs can take over the game of basketball when a player makes them mad. For example, imagine in baseball, if the pitcher said something to the umpire he didn't like, and he started calling strikes as balls...It only works this way in basketball. The officiating system in the NBA is more tainted than ANY other sport I can think of, and I'm sure you agree...PeACe
the superstars will get the call or non-call 99% of the time though...its always been that way and always will be...did MJ push off? absolutely. Refs miss calls in every game,in every sport.favoritism no doubt, but its not a scandal.
^damn nigga you a tight poster, you a alias?
Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 27, 2007, 03:17:08 PMQuote from: ^ReLentLess^ on July 27, 2007, 03:08:28 PMthe superstars will get the call or non-call 99% of the time though...its always been that way and always will be...did MJ push off? absolutely. Refs miss calls in every game,in every sport.favoritism no doubt, but its not a scandal.Exactly. It's a flaw in the system and why NBA officiating has fallen apart, the fact that we've come to accept that...Also, hated superstars do not get the same treatment, no matter how good they are.Something needs to be done.It's not in every sport, basketball is the only sport where someone falling with the closest person being 2-3 feet can be called a foul AND have it be accepted with no consequences whatsoever for the official responsible...Refs can take over the game of basketball when a player makes them mad. For example, imagine in baseball, if the pitcher said something to the umpire he didn't like, and he started calling strikes as balls...It only works this way in basketball. The officiating system in the NBA is more tainted than ANY other sport I can think of, and I'm sure you agree...PeACeBoxing has them beat.All there is, is this Donaghy thing. Its so overdramatic. So many people are just using this as an opportunity to bash all refs. Its so stupid. The officials in the NBA probably have a harder job then any of the other officials in major sports in the US. This one ref was obviously the exception. If anybody blames him for their losses, then they need to also blame him for their victories.As for teams in the NBA, they have it good. Look at the Oakland Raiders. Im not saying theres a conspiracy or anything. But one franchise, leads the league every single year in penalties. Over the last 15 years theyve probably gone through 10 different coaches and who knows how many different players. And damn near every single year STILL lead the league in penalties. Id imagine at least 1 or 2 of those guys came in and said...."hey, we're not gonna committ as many penalties this year". How does that even make sense? They arent a "dirty" team these days and havent been for like 30 yrs. Al Davis has had his lawsuits against the league, and I dont think they particularly care for him. But like I said, im not crying foul....but as a Raider fan I would have far more right to then any NBA franchise would.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on July 27, 2007, 05:05:47 PM"A ref has more power than a coach or a player to determine the outcome of a basketball game"-Mike Mathis, NBA ref 1976-2001. Head of NBA Officiating Union for 11 years.of course they do. But any good coach would tell their players not to worry about the refs and play their game. the calls eventually even out. refs arent anymore perfect then players or coaches. why bitch about the shit you cant control. anybody who continuously uses the refs as their scapegoat for losing has absolutely ZERO confidence in themself or their team. its so easy to blame the refs. and EVERY once in a while you can make a legit case for a ref completely blowing one. but to go on and on about the refs is just bitchmade. Whats even funnier to me is how many people whine about refs, blame them for losses....but never give them credit for victories. When one bad call is made, theres victim and a beneficiary. The guy or team who benefits never says "wow, that ref really helped us win the game". EVERY single team/player in the league has been a victim of a bad call....and has benefited from a bad call. Kind of funny how they only whine instead of praise.