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Republicans abstaining from YouTube debates
virtuoso:
No I understand what you are saying, but like you said it's one thing to have intent it's another thing to have the ability to carry out and execute the plans in a professional manner. Which raises questions about the RCMP's conduct in all of this, as these were just simply a gang of crazy punks, they could never do it themselves and so therefore the sting operation was not a sting operation to clear the streets of dangerous individuals and more a deliberate cynical calculated attempt at spreading the fear factor of the so called war on terror. It's also interesting to note that from reading canadian online publications, that this was all politically timed because this group had been watched for a long time.
Shallow:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on August 05, 2007, 08:43:30 AM ---
No I understand what you are saying, but like you said it's one thing to have intent it's another thing to have the ability to carry out and execute the plans in a professional manner. Which raises questions about the RCMP's confuct in all of this, as these were just simply a gang of crazy punks, they could never do it themselves and so therefore the sting operation was not a sting operation to clear the streets of dangerous individuals and more a deliberate cynical calculated attempt at spreading the fear factor of the so called war on terror. It's also interesting to note that from reading canadian online publications, that this was all politically timed because this group had been watched for a long time.
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The political timing was another key factor. Governments and media constantly band together to create a fuss and get people emotional. Rather than releasing monthly reports of where are tax dollars are going and why it needs to be spent the way it is, they just find a sensational story every so often and pump it down our throats. Whether it be blockades on supposed native land that shut down an entire town, or gunfights the day after Christmas that leave 5 wounded and one dead, or Jamaicans killing each other in the street over disprespect, or a police officer sadly being killed on the job. It's not that I don't feel for the victims in those cases but for everyone one gun shooting victim, angry native and dead cop there dozens upon dozens of early heart attacks, strokes, drownings, and vehicular homicides. Yet those stories take a back seat. People die, that's just the way life goes. At the end of the day we just have to accept, do our best to prolong it, and move on. What people don't have to accept is 30 to 50 percent of our income being stolen by the government. We don't have to accept government funded monopolies sucking the life out of industry and services. All these penalties, permits and taxes need to go, but as long as people in Toronto are too busy worrying about being shot in the street by an angry Jamaican, living near a marijuana grow op, or trying to stop carbon dioxide from destroying the planet, those burdens on our society will never go away.
virtuoso:
Ageed +1
*Z* - The Queen of Dubcc:
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on August 03, 2007, 01:26:07 PM ---
--- Quote from: Real American on July 28, 2007, 09:40:46 AM ---
We are talking about the presidency of the United States....let's be a little more sophisticated.
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says the Bush fan :D
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jeromechickenbone:
--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on August 03, 2007, 11:11:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jrome Is Officially Voting for Ron Paul 2008! on July 31, 2007, 06:12:55 PM ---Just read earlier that the debate is still on, it's just been rescheduled. I'll post the date in a minute.
And there isn't a Republican candidate that would EVER want to go toe to toe with Paul in any debate. He's won every one so far. They're scared shitless of him. They're not gonna praise his ideas, they're not gonna ridicule his ideas because he always comes off looking better. Their strategy is to just ignore him and blackball him.
And yes, thus far it's only Paul and McCain as far as the big names go.
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I beg to differ. these republicans would love to go toe to toe with Paul because the ignorant home crowd theyll be debating in front of, will be too stupid to realize the ether that Paul would drop.
witness Guilianis mind numbling stupid response to Paul re: 9/11 attackers and their motivations. Guiliania disputed a proven fact and got a standing ovation
and im not surpirsed these republicans are shook. i bet half of their electoral base doesnt even know how to upload a video onto youtube
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True, but that was argueably the biggerst moment in that debate. That got Paul a lot more exposure than he would have gotten. And when he was asked in subsequent interviews he had his time to fully explain his stance, which when rational people hear that they can actually agree. In the end Rudy came off looking like an uninformed dumbfuck.
And I know Paul invited Guiliani to debate the topic 1 on 1 at a later date and Guiliani refused. He's shook.
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