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TraceOneInfinite:
In a democracy, the voters can vote to aquire money from the treasury. 

A politician gets elected by proposing a lofty agenda of building better schools, hospitals , and roads... of increasing the salaries of teachers and the benefits provided for veterans and senoir citizens.  Proposals to be tough on crime nationally by increasing the numbers of police on the streets and tough on "terror" by increasing the defense budget, spending more on armoured humvees for soldiers and attempting to have military bases in 100 countries around the world.                         
Then, like Bush is proposing now, they promise this grand agenda, and even offer tax cuts at the same time!

Do people, democrats and republicans not realize how ridiculous this sounds?

Ron Paul is the only rational candidate (because he is really a Libertarian).  He is rational because he states the obvious.  You can't cut taxes without cutting spending!

We want to vote for all these government programs we think will improve our lives, in short, in a democracy the people will vote to aquire money from the national treasury for things they want, and the treasury inevitably goes into debt. 

BANANAS:
yeah bryguy, we get it. terror is just the hot issue for national politics, you got education crime jobs all as interchangeable phrases used by joe politico when he's speaking to whoever he's trying to get votes/money out of. same formula, different script. ps i was down at orchard supply the other day they got a sale on construction kneepads, allah will be pleased

7even:
I think America can afford to be in debt, because no country they owe has the armory to fuck them up for not paying back.

As to candidates promising unrealistic stuff, what else is new? Man, I've heard so much ignorant stuff in "What I'd do if I was president", and it doesn't surprise me. Most people aren't aware of how many intangibles there are. They think you can just lower the taxes, give more money to people in need, reduce tuition fees and pave new streets all at the same time and there will be no problem. You tell the blunt truth and there will be less votes, I can't blame candidates for being contrived.

And of course, democracy is not perfect... no system is.

Teddy Roosevelt:
Democracy is only as adept as its people who vote. So while politicians can make such crazy promises and still propose tax cuts, it is up to the people to be to realize that is this unfeasible. Unfortunately most people are too stupid or lazy to understand their country and the government that runs it.

TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on September 17, 2007, 10:15:08 PM ---I think America can afford to be in debt, because no country they owe has the armory to fuck them up for not paying back.

As to candidates promising unrealistic stuff, what else is new? Man, I've heard so much ignorant stuff in "What I'd do if I was president", and it doesn't surprise me. Most people aren't aware of how many intangibles there are. They think you can just lower the taxes, give more money to people in need, reduce tuition fees and pave new streets all at the same time and there will be no problem. You tell the blunt truth and there will be less votes, I can't blame candidates for being contrived.

And of course, democracy is not perfect... no system is.

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Ron Paul is the only candidate who will tell you straight up that government can't fix the problem, that all these grand and noble intentions will actually only make things worse, and the solution is to put an end to all these government programs like the war on drugs, the war in iraq, no child left behind, medicare, medicaid, humpback whale research and what ever else costs the tax payers nearly half their income.

You get government out of these things and give it back to the private sector where people decided with their own dollars what is most important to them. 

If your a zionist then be a zionist and send your own damn money to defend Israel, go and fight yourself if you want.

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