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virtuoso:
Actually smoke break this is an emerging trend, for instance SWAT are now being called into domestic disturbances and to carry out all manners of raids on those that have ignored warrants. What this means is that the images of the darph phader type suits are becoming more and more commonplace. This is an incremental trend but it is certainly not a minority of cops who now look like this, far from it. By the way as far as SWAT are concerned, they were never intended to be used for domestic disturbances and other low level forms of crime and yet that is exactly what their role has expanded into. Needless to say the repercussions of using these types of troops on ordinary civilian matters is both dangerous, unnecessary and more importantly downright disturbing.

boycriedwolf619:

--- Quote from: Smoke Break on September 18, 2007, 03:30:49 PM ---lol, there are some good points, but he's also full of shit on others, regular cops driving around aren't dressed or armed like that, he kept showing special situations devoid of their context. They do have armories with heavy shit, and carry MP5's and sometimes M16's in the trunks, but have you seen what regular citizens(and criminals) have at home? I'm still more equipped than these fucks. I love how we accept scare tactics from people like this.

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Your more equipped? I undertsand having like a handgun and all but to be more equipped than these guy thats crazy. you in the military or something?

Smoke Break:
2 m16's, 2 more assault rifles that I have no idea what they are, plus 6 handguns, 2 shotguns, and a little .22 rifle. I'm not in the military.

Laconic:

--- Quote from: boycriedwolf619 on September 18, 2007, 03:06:35 PM ---
--- Quote from: Laconic on September 18, 2007, 02:51:27 PM ---Yeah this is complete horseshit.  I live in a city where there are only 30,000 residents when both colleges are in session.  So about 20,000 permanent residents.  Anyway, on our old base here we have Homeland Security choppers, DEA offices, and the local police are now armed with M-16s.  They also have dirt bikes, jet skis, 4-wheelers and many more dispensible pieces of equipment.



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I dont get it. You  say its complete bullshit but you basically describe the same thing thats in the video. Or maybe I'm just not understanding you.

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All I'm saying is the militarization of police is occurring just about everywhere and we are becoming more and more of a police state with suspension of Posse Comitatus and the like.  It's fucked up and completely unnecessary.  It's all about training the public to bow down to the state.

So I'm agreeing with the video. 

Smoke Break:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on September 18, 2007, 03:39:54 PM ---Actually smoke break this is an emerging trend, for instance SWAT are now being called into domestic disturbances and to carry out all manners of raids on those that have ignored warrants. What this means is that the images of the darph phader type suits are becoming more and more commonplace. This is an incremental trend but it is certainly not a minority of cops who now look like this, far from it. By the way as far as SWAT are concerned, they were never intended to be used for domestic disturbances and other low level forms of crime and yet that is exactly what their role has expanded into. Needless to say the repercussions of using these types of troops on ordinary civilian matters is both dangerous, unnecessary and more importantly downright disturbing.

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It's an emerging trend because we sell military style weapons of every type to average citizens, add that on top of the US being the most heavily armed society in the world they have to upgrade what they have, .45s dont cut it anymore. Remember that bank heist by two guys in LA(I think) they out-gunned all of the cops that responded. That's crazy about SWAT handling low-profile shit though, i've never seen that before. I know they handle a lot of drug house raids and incidents that can easily end up in a firefight. But I agree if that's true and widespread. I'm not trying to condone what they do, its just a sad fact that with so many guns, and so few cops they have to at least match what people have.

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