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Mr. O:
let's stop racist bullshit.

Outlaw Immortal:

--- Quote from: King Tech Quadafi on October 26, 2007, 07:44:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: Outlaw Immortal on October 26, 2007, 01:37:35 AM ---HAHHAAHAH, im not african, im half arab, just to let you know, so i don't need this racist shit on board.

hahaha you think you're big cause you finished a shitty degree in global political studies. I'm nearly finished structural engineering, and next year I'm picking up a double degree civil engineering/political science or Civil engineering/law. So theres not much to talk about.

And you're a pussy 'ohhh look at me i have a girlfriend', you pussy whipped little shit, having girlfriends at a young age is pointless, only when im in my mid 20s i plan on real relationships you fag, it's not like you're gonna marry her, its just gonna be another short relationship then switch to another chick after.

lol as for respect from your friends, thats nothin big, everyperson who has friends should get that. Respect from the neighbourhood, ye i got that, and its hard to get, so if you arent lying then congratulations.

Anyway, my point is from racial perspective, you shouldn't be sayin nigga unless you're african or latino (doesn't count spanish). But you being Afghanistani cuts you short, so i advise you to stop, so that in the near future you don't get hurt by people you think are cool with you.

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i asked who u were, i didnt ask for ur life story. u sound pathetic, but considering ur  arab its not surprising.

smh @ this shaved ape speculating on my lovelife...for the record i actually am gonna marry her, and u know why...because whatever u plan on doing until ure 30 ive already done by 22....this fuckin civil enginner over here wouldnt be able to walk 5 min in my size 14 blue chucks faggot, the fact that u think having a woman is useless shows youre a fuckin boy. just cuz u got hair on ya nuts dont make u a man, son...u have alot to learn about life...

and stop being a lil bitch crying about the nigger word, man fuck you u pussy...crying over the internet like a little bitch, what are u , captain save a nigga? what are u trying to kick knowledge?  ;D

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hahahah, you immature little shit, you're 22 years old, and look at you, what have you accomplished?, you talk like you're a teenager on the INTERNET..and you use words like blue chucks, nigga, 'man up son', fuck i bet in life you dont even say that. For a person whos finished a degree in politics you sure act like you're puttin on a show. lol blue chucks thats still pretty funny, are you tryin to refer to yourself as a crip?, or are you tryin to refer yourself as someone from the westcoast. You're Canadian..stop lying to yourself.

Also i dont think women are useless, i think serious relationships with women prior the ages of 24/25 are useless, its just gay puppy love and faggots who wanna say 'hey look at me shes my girlfriend, i love her, none of you understand bla bla bla' booo fucking hoo.

lol and as for your comment on 'captain save a nigga' hahaha- brother you gotta check your head before u use words like that, its like playin with fire, you got that kramer.

Also ive realised you cant tell the difference between the word nigga and nigger. Theyre 2 words with completely different meanings, so it just proves you dont know shit about anything.

And to everyone else critsisizing arabs and islam, if you disagree on somethin please justify it without the need of hatred because of your ignorancy, not that im muslim or anything, but i dont like disrespect towards other religions or races.

Now im gonna stop arguin over the internet, its getting really pathetic and i wanna keep my dignity.

TraceOneInfinite:
A lot of ignorance in this thread.  Really none of us has the right to come on this forum and speak with such prejudice against black people.  Because we all are heavily influenced by the culture they created (hip-hop) and because of this they deserve our utmost respect at this forum.

Now let me effectively present the case for Muslims in regards to the slavery issue...

...You can't compare Islamic slavery to the system used during the trans-Atlantic slave trade.  Slavery in America was the most racist and brutal form of slavery. 

To put it simply, if you were black you were condemned to slavery for your whole life, and your children's children were also condemned to slavery.  It was even written in the Constitution that they were 3/5's of a human being.  If you were white then you were automatically a free man and could not be subjected to slavery.

Compare that to the slavery that was practiced by Muslims.  The slavery that Muslims were practicing, was a form in which prisoners of war served a term of slavery (Muslims held white American slaves for example, during the Barbary wars of the late 18th century, slavery had nothing to do with race), or people would sell themselves out of economic necessity in the same way a Mexican maid would in America.  Eventually they gained their rights to freedom.  Their children were not condemned to slavery, and one could work themselves out of slavery economically.  Many slaves served a short term, and later held leading positions in society.  In both Baghdad (Middle East) and in Morroco (Africa) their were instances when a slave or son of of slave even rose to be King or Kaliphate (leader of the Muslims).  In fact, one Sudanese slave woman even served as interim Sultana (Islamic leader) in the Baghdad Kalifa while her son (the heir to the throne) was only 10 and still too young to actively take over the position.

So in short, the Islamic system was not based on race, but rather it was based on economics and prisoners of war, and secondly it was not life-long, and a person could work themselves out of slavery, and the dissolution of slavery is encouraged in the Qu'ran... and I've supplied the verses in which Islam encourages the the dissolution of slavery below...

[24:33]  "Those who cannot afford to get married shall maintain morality until GOD provides for them from His grace. Those among your servants who wish to be freed in order to marry, you shall grant them their wish, once you realize that they are honest. And give them from GOD's money that He has bestowed upon you. ........."

[9:60]  Charities shall go to the poor, the needy, the workers who collect them, the new converts, to free the slaves, to those burdened by sudden expenses, in the cause of GOD, and to the traveling alien. Such is GOD's commandment. GOD is Omniscient, Most Wise.

[90:10-13] Did we not show him the two paths? He should choose the difficult path. Which one is the difficult path?  The freeing of slaves.


 

Tha Psycho Hustla:
....and thee master shall speak ::)

allahu fuckbar

CantCme213:

--- Quote from: Tha Psycho Hustla on October 27, 2007, 06:58:37 AM ---....and thee master shall speak ::)

allahu fuckbar

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STFU WIGGA

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