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first off.... stars of old being on roids is a huge assumption on your part. At this point it's only something that you can speculate about. I am not saying that you are wrong, but you can't say that you are completely right either. As far as the average speed pitch being a higher average... so far all we have is your word to go on that. If you can show me something then I will happily agree.
Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Everyone but Jordan, Bird, Shaq and Steve Nash have taken Steroids. Those are the only four to not touch it. Maybe Duncan too.
^Yea, but his opinion holds no weight...He lost all credibility when he said:Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2007, 02:59:42 PM Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Everyone but Jordan, Bird, Shaq and Steve Nash have taken Steroids. Those are the only four to not touch it. Maybe Duncan too.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on December 05, 2007, 09:48:42 AM^Yea, but his opinion holds no weight...He lost all credibility when he said:Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2007, 02:59:42 PM Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Everyone but Jordan, Bird, Shaq and Steve Nash have taken Steroids. Those are the only four to not touch it. Maybe Duncan too. Oh my God, NIK you've just officially become stupider than Bryan/Infinite.
Quote from: Shallow on December 05, 2007, 11:59:08 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 05, 2007, 09:48:42 AM^Yea, but his opinion holds no weight...He lost all credibility when he said:Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2007, 02:59:42 PM Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Everyone but Jordan, Bird, Shaq and Steve Nash have taken Steroids. Those are the only four to not touch it. Maybe Duncan too. Oh my God, NIK you've just officially become stupider than Bryan/Infinite.Yea, really...because we all know what you just said regarding NBA players not only makes perfect sense, but holds a ton of credibility.LMFAO@Magic Johnson taking steroids...Shoot yourself in the eyeball, you waste of air.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on December 05, 2007, 12:20:07 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 05, 2007, 11:59:08 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 05, 2007, 09:48:42 AM^Yea, but his opinion holds no weight...He lost all credibility when he said:Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2007, 02:59:42 PM Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Everyone but Jordan, Bird, Shaq and Steve Nash have taken Steroids. Those are the only four to not touch it. Maybe Duncan too. Oh my God, NIK you've just officially become stupider than Bryan/Infinite.Yea, really...because we all know what you just said regarding NBA players not only makes perfect sense, but holds a ton of credibility.LMFAO@Magic Johnson taking steroids...Shoot yourself in the eyeball, you waste of air.I will the second you look up the roots of sarcasm. You fucking idiot. You can't even pick up simple things like me claiming that you're two favourite players being roid heads while the few that you constantly speak out against being the only ones that don't take roids and distinguish the difference between what is a solid statement and what is a joke. And you think you can distinguish between Jordan and Kobe as to who was better. Regardless of who is better you do not hold the mental capacity to make that distinction.And I actually thought when you said "poster of the year" you weren't being sarcastic and were acknowledging that it was a joke. Albeit not the greatest joke but to think it was a serious opinion really says a lot about you.My theory on steroids stems from facts. Fact; USSR used them in the 50s to win medals. Fact, the US got them running strong by the early 60s. Fact it spread to much of the sports world. I use my own logic, which may be wrong, to imply that (since different steroids account for different advantages, not just strength), it would have gained popularity and spread like wildfire at the amateur levels just to keep the playing field level. Whether it be Jordan or Bird, Magic or Isaiah. I feel that at the younger levels, college even high school athletes of the post 60s competing for spots would not let lesser players get those spots due to cheating so they cheated too, thus eliminating the idea of cheating. If Tyson was on roids and Holmes was on roids then Tyson wouldn't be a cheater.I know I'm going out on a bit of a limb, but it's based on solid fact and logic. Not on fairy tales like Styles 1 example of the Korean God or whatever he said.
Hey everybody has so-called facts to back up what they believe.... you have yours ...and the weird Mooney's that were used in my example have theirs too... lol.
Quote from: Shallow on December 05, 2007, 12:55:35 PMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 05, 2007, 12:20:07 PMQuote from: Shallow on December 05, 2007, 11:59:08 AMQuote from: Now_I_Know on December 05, 2007, 09:48:42 AM^Yea, but his opinion holds no weight...He lost all credibility when he said:Quote from: Shallow on December 04, 2007, 02:59:42 PM Kobe Bryant and Magic Johnson. Everyone but Jordan, Bird, Shaq and Steve Nash have taken Steroids. Those are the only four to not touch it. Maybe Duncan too. Oh my God, NIK you've just officially become stupider than Bryan/Infinite.Yea, really...because we all know what you just said regarding NBA players not only makes perfect sense, but holds a ton of credibility.LMFAO@Magic Johnson taking steroids...Shoot yourself in the eyeball, you waste of air.I will the second you look up the roots of sarcasm. You fucking idiot. You can't even pick up simple things like me claiming that you're two favourite players being roid heads while the few that you constantly speak out against being the only ones that don't take roids and distinguish the difference between what is a solid statement and what is a joke. And you think you can distinguish between Jordan and Kobe as to who was better. Regardless of who is better you do not hold the mental capacity to make that distinction.And I actually thought when you said "poster of the year" you weren't being sarcastic and were acknowledging that it was a joke. Albeit not the greatest joke but to think it was a serious opinion really says a lot about you.My theory on steroids stems from facts. Fact; USSR used them in the 50s to win medals. Fact, the US got them running strong by the early 60s. Fact it spread to much of the sports world. I use my own logic, which may be wrong, to imply that (since different steroids account for different advantages, not just strength), it would have gained popularity and spread like wildfire at the amateur levels just to keep the playing field level. Whether it be Jordan or Bird, Magic or Isaiah. I feel that at the younger levels, college even high school athletes of the post 60s competing for spots would not let lesser players get those spots due to cheating so they cheated too, thus eliminating the idea of cheating. If Tyson was on roids and Holmes was on roids then Tyson wouldn't be a cheater.I know I'm going out on a bit of a limb, but it's based on solid fact and logic. Not on fairy tales like Styles 1 example of the Korean God or whatever he said.Yea, because sarcasm is easily detected through text, huh, shit-for-brains? Don't blame me if I thought you were stupid enough to actually believe that...I've been reading your posts for some time now, so it's not my fault...PeACe
Jordan and Bird are some of my favorite players ever, dumbfuck...You're blaming me for thinking that you were stupid enough to believe that. LOL. You've made some ridiculously biased comments in the past, and your views on steroids are extreme, so I didn't put it past you. Nobody laughed at your "joke"...perhaps it's a sign of your reputation around here...PeACe
No basketball players use or have used steroids...Get over it. You need a lot more durability in basketball. Name me 3 players who you think have benefited in the NBA from the use of steroids with something to back it up. You can't do it...PeACe