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Quote from: Westcoastin' on December 06, 2007, 07:54:26 PMtheres no such thing as blasphemy, thats just an old censor on free speech and free thought..... fuck religion, spirituality is whats importantSure Blasphemy is real. What God is exactly is unknown but God is good, meaning what is good is God. The spiritual energy that creates love is what God is. So going against what is right when you know it to be right and choosing to go against it regardless is what blasphemy is. Simply saying something stupid like "Fuck God", or walking around the mall with a T shirt with giant letters printed on that say "Jesus is a Cunt" (I saw it once in tha mall last summer) is not blasphemy, it's just idiocy; dumb kids trying to get attention. Even being upest with God for the rain that destroyed all your crops and coming out while it's raining with a shot gun and shooting the skies in an attempt to wound God or threaten him to keep him from letting more rain fall (I had a great uncle in Greece that did that once) is not blasphemy. It's simply being fucking pissed off, and a little nuts from what I understand. These may be all sins but they are not blasphemy. Blasphemy is watching an old woman fall right in front of you with no one else and around and watching her struggle to get up and you know you should help but you just stand there and watch because you don't want to help because you want to see her struggle and get hurt. That is going against everything that is right. Everything that is God. That is blasphemy.
theres no such thing as blasphemy, thats just an old censor on free speech and free thought..... fuck religion, spirituality is whats important
But all black men are God and Cam Ron is a black man. You hypocrite.
Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2007, 08:49:58 AMBut all black men are God and Cam Ron is a black man. You hypocrite.Cam is an Uncle Tom and a fag. That makes him part of the 10%. Meaning he has embraced devilish ways.
Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2007, 08:49:58 AMQuote from: Westcoastin' on December 06, 2007, 07:54:26 PMtheres no such thing as blasphemy, thats just an old censor on free speech and free thought..... fuck religion, spirituality is whats importantSure Blasphemy is real. What God is exactly is unknown but God is good, meaning what is good is God. The spiritual energy that creates love is what God is. So going against what is right when you know it to be right and choosing to go against it regardless is what blasphemy is. Simply saying something stupid like "Fuck God", or walking around the mall with a T shirt with giant letters printed on that say "Jesus is a Cunt" (I saw it once in tha mall last summer) is not blasphemy, it's just idiocy; dumb kids trying to get attention. Even being upest with God for the rain that destroyed all your crops and coming out while it's raining with a shot gun and shooting the skies in an attempt to wound God or threaten him to keep him from letting more rain fall (I had a great uncle in Greece that did that once) is not blasphemy. It's simply being fucking pissed off, and a little nuts from what I understand. These may be all sins but they are not blasphemy. Blasphemy is watching an old woman fall right in front of you with no one else and around and watching her struggle to get up and you know you should help but you just stand there and watch because you don't want to help because you want to see her struggle and get hurt. That is going against everything that is right. Everything that is God. That is blasphemy.lol, your great uncle is badassim down with your definition of blasphemy, though i usually just think of that description as karma.....if you give out positive energy by being a decent person, you'll attract it back, if you put out negative energy by being a cunt, you'll get it back, so in that sense I credit that to the energy of the "Universe" instead of "God"....people in power just use the term blasphemy as a tool....while maybe the true meaning of the word is ignored, or is given the punishment of burning in eternal hellfirehaha, I could probably talk about this for hours... constantly contradicting myself. Just because noone knows whats out there for sure... thats why I cant say that I believe in God, how can you believe in something you know absolutely nothing about, all you're saying is that you believe that the term "god" exists, and that somehow, whatever it is, created everything around us. Nobody can possibly know what its intentions were, why it did what it did, and what it wants to do/not do. People answer that by saying that they have faith, but then cant describe what it is they have faith in.....faith in god? thats just a circle. I figure, just be a good person.... be positive, attract positiveness, create meaningful relationships with those around you, be in touch with yourself and the earth, and then you'll either find out what is all about when you die, or you dont, and thats it.lol, i took this topic about cam'ron and wet farts to a whole 'nother level, so heres a monkey dancing..
Blasphemy is watching an old woman fall right in front of you with no one else and around and watching her struggle to get up and you know you should help but you just stand there and watch because you don't want to help because you want to see her struggle and get hurt. That is going against everything that is right. Everything that is God. That is blasphemy.
Quote from: Shallow on December 07, 2007, 08:49:58 AMBlasphemy is watching an old woman fall right in front of you with no one else and around and watching her struggle to get up and you know you should help but you just stand there and watch because you don't want to help because you want to see her struggle and get hurt. That is going against everything that is right. Everything that is God. That is blasphemy.Are you saying it's necessarily good to pick up an old woman after she falls down, or saying it's bad to enjoy her struggling?By what standards?You could make a case against both of these assumptions. They're by their very essence driven by an irrational code of ethics that puts self-sacrifice above personal interest. That's not to say it is necessarily wrong to help that old woman get up, but in no way can you, without prior consideration, automatically judge a case like this. The consideration is rather simple in its essence, yet more complex in it's outcome: what will you lose and what will you gain by acting 'good'?Is it worth sacrifising your pleasure (after all, you enjoy watching her struggle and get hurt), just to 'act good' by the standards others put upon you? Bear in mind - if those were your own standards, you wouldn't have enjoyed watching her suffer. Should it be worth sacrifising your enjoyment, for no reason but the thing you just called God, which you only assumed was righteous?I'm not trying to tell you it would be right to leave that woman on the ground and watch her suffering. To be capable of blindly enjoying the suffering of another, assuming you don't know them, would require a very disturbing and irrational mind frame. That I find just as much despicable as any mystical religious whim.
Quote from: Westcoastin' on December 07, 2007, 11:22:23 AMQuote from: Shallow on December 07, 2007, 08:49:58 AMQuote from: Westcoastin' on December 06, 2007, 07:54:26 PMtheres no such thing as blasphemy, thats just an old censor on free speech and free thought..... fuck religion, spirituality is whats importantSure Blasphemy is real. What God is exactly is unknown but God is good, meaning what is good is God. The spiritual energy that creates love is what God is. So going against what is right when you know it to be right and choosing to go against it regardless is what blasphemy is. Simply saying something stupid like "Fuck God", or walking around the mall with a T shirt with giant letters printed on that say "Jesus is a Cunt" (I saw it once in tha mall last summer) is not blasphemy, it's just idiocy; dumb kids trying to get attention. Even being upest with God for the rain that destroyed all your crops and coming out while it's raining with a shot gun and shooting the skies in an attempt to wound God or threaten him to keep him from letting more rain fall (I had a great uncle in Greece that did that once) is not blasphemy. It's simply being fucking pissed off, and a little nuts from what I understand. These may be all sins but they are not blasphemy. Blasphemy is watching an old woman fall right in front of you with no one else and around and watching her struggle to get up and you know you should help but you just stand there and watch because you don't want to help because you want to see her struggle and get hurt. That is going against everything that is right. Everything that is God. That is blasphemy.lol, your great uncle is badassim down with your definition of blasphemy, though i usually just think of that description as karma.....if you give out positive energy by being a decent person, you'll attract it back, if you put out negative energy by being a cunt, you'll get it back, so in that sense I credit that to the energy of the "Universe" instead of "God"....people in power just use the term blasphemy as a tool....while maybe the true meaning of the word is ignored, or is given the punishment of burning in eternal hellfirehaha, I could probably talk about this for hours... constantly contradicting myself. Just because noone knows whats out there for sure... thats why I cant say that I believe in God, how can you believe in something you know absolutely nothing about, all you're saying is that you believe that the term "god" exists, and that somehow, whatever it is, created everything around us. Nobody can possibly know what its intentions were, why it did what it did, and what it wants to do/not do. People answer that by saying that they have faith, but then cant describe what it is they have faith in.....faith in god? thats just a circle. I figure, just be a good person.... be positive, attract positiveness, create meaningful relationships with those around you, be in touch with yourself and the earth, and then you'll either find out what is all about when you die, or you dont, and thats it.lol, i took this topic about cam'ron and wet farts to a whole 'nother level, so heres a monkey dancing.. He was crazy from what I understand. He lived through the German invasion. Had to stay in hiding while the Nazis rounded up and killed men and raped women and girls.Anywho, but my definition you do believe in God. If God IS what is good then believing in the right thing, that which is good, is believing in God. The other part is the creator part. So long as you believe that the universe was created you belive in a creator. What creating the universe may be up for debate but certainly the idea that it was created is pretty agreed upon.
Quote from: Westcoastin' on December 06, 2007, 07:54:26 PMtheres no such thing as blasphemy, thats just an old censor on free speech and free thought..... fuck religion, spirituality is whats importantIm starting to lean towards that direction, about to stop studying the bible with Jehovah's witness
i suppose it would depend on if your amount of enjoyment outweighs her amount of discomfort/embarassment....
if God is everything that is around us, the energy that is inherent in all things, that which influences and affects every action and reaction... I dont necessarily think it only applies to Positivity, Negative energy is equally as powerful and influential, im not even convinced that being positive is more worthwhile than being negative, i just find it to be the preferable way to live in my circumstances...
many people choose the opposite, and whos to say theyre wrong?
One thang I don't get and I never will get is how somebody can't believe in God.
the universe was obviously created, came to be, somehow... we're here arent we? (not really provable, but lets assume).... the thing that throws people is whether it was consciously designed by some sentient type of being, or came out of nothingness
[The thing that throws people is whether the universe] came out of nothingness (which kind of makes sense, in an abstract sort of way.... you cant divide a number by zero because the answer is nothing, If the laws of physics say that everything has an equal and opposite, whats the opposite of infinity? some sort of extreme nothingness?)
Quote from: QuietTruth on December 08, 2007, 11:52:23 AMOne thang I don't get and I never will get is how somebody can't believe in God. I've got my reasons, QT. Do you? Because I never will understand how people can believe in a god. Peep game, because this is where it gets interesting:
What's the matter with you? Everyone knows God isn't black.
But what have scientists proved though? They don't have any evidence that God doesn't exist.
They tell you we evolved.
Why can't they tell you about miracles though? Why can't they explain exorcisms? [...] What they got to say about Angel sightings?
Why can't they explain spirits and physics?
They can tell you we was monkeys but they can't explain these Powers that God is known to carry. Word up or not??
If I was a catholic I would tell you, ya'll gonna be spending a hot minute in purgatory
And back to the mystical concept of religion. Since it isn't based on observable reality, the followers of religion are led to believe in things they can't see or witness, and which oppose the laws of nature. The result: some people become so highly affected as to believe in things such as exorcism, angel sightings and the like. Their sense of reality has cut loose from their minds. That's the brain thinking the senses have registered something. In science, that's called hallucinating. It's very much scientifically proved to be true, and it plays a huge role in psychology.Quote from: QuietTruth on December 08, 2007, 01:21:15 PMWhy can't they explain spirits and physics?Oh, but wait, that is also explained in psychology (which is also a science based on observable facts). What's left to be logically explained about a concept that's not observable? You only assume there is a duality between the spirit and the physical. What to think of neurological sciences, which provide insight in the activities of the brain concerning emotions, learning capabilities, language, visual insight, the connection between brain parts, the collaborating, et cetera? These have been objects of study for scientists for years. To dispose their observations and rational findings, only because of some unproven concept of a God, that's a crime against your own senses. Are you that lowly?
In other words, no word up from me.