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I officially predict Ron Paul wont' win a fucking thing

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Trauma-san:

--- Quote from: Ron Paul = greatest American since Thomas Jefferson on January 01, 2008, 08:09:20 PM ---I don't really even know where to start here.  One, you're grossly misinformed or simply ignorant to Paul's platform apparently.  He's not for a flat tax (thats Huckabee who is truly leftist masquerading as a Republican), he's for NO INCOME TAX.  Our country and government worked just fine before we amended the constitution for it.  It ties in perfectly with his foreign policy of non-intervention.  When we're not spending $1 TRILLION (yes, I said TRILLION) on a war that 70% of the country is against, you don't need nearly as much in tax dollars.  And Paul acknowledges that you can't just walk in and flip the switch to turn off the IRS.  He's 72 years old, he's been around the block.  He will propose phasing it out.  Paul introduces more legislation to congress than any other member.  Trust that he will continue to do so in regards to the income tax.  If America elects Ron Paul and Congress is vetoing everything he does, the American people will not sit by idly.  These people will be replaced by those who hold ideals similar to Paul when the elections for Senate and House come around again.

And I'll say it again, not supporting ideals and fundamentals of someone because you don't think they'll win is bitchmade.  It reeks of accepting failure and uselessness.

You're supporting Hillary Clinton?  Are you serious?  She's a corrupt, communist, career politician which makes her an extremely slimy bitch.  Do you have any clue about how much scandal her and ol Billy have been entrenched in over the last 40 years?  You'd really trust someone like that?  And if you think taxes are high now, just wait till she steps in.

And of course the Democrats would never elect a guy like Paul.  What would make you think a party based on high taxes and socialism would embrace Ron Paul?  He's for self-reliance and accountability.  Pretty much the polar opposite of a Democrat.

Stick to the nintendo games bro.

--- End quote ---

The sole source of the u.s. government's money is the income tax.  If you're saying Paul doesn't want to replace it with a fair tax than you just described him as more crazy than he existed in even my own mind.  It's impossible to simply phase out the I.R.S., it would never work.  You say that we spend a trillion in Iraq, following Ron's policy would leave the country with no money to defend itself if a war ever presented that was inevitable. 

As for his record, yeah, I know about his record.  For instance, he makes sure to get his own earmarks in congressional budgets to bring home tax money to his state, even though he says he's against that.  That's interesting.

He introduces more legislation than any other member (arguably) but how many pass?  That's a good example of what a Ron Paul presidency would be like.

Or even better, look at a Ron Paul campaign.  He can't win 1 state.  Anybody with any intelligence sees that he talks a good talk, but doesn't accomplish anything.

Now, Hillary! THERE'S Somebody ready to lead on day 1 in Washington.  Vote Hillary!!!!

Shallow:

--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 02, 2008, 06:05:00 AM ---[
Now, Hillary! THERE'S Somebody ready to lead on day 1 in Washington.  Vote Hillary!!!!

--- End quote ---


She can lead you alright, straight into hell.


You can oppose taxes and still take tax rebates. And still stand against something and vote with your constituency (it's called democracy). Paul won't oppose wars that the American people want, and if Income Tax was the only income how did the country survive those hundred years before it was there?

Narrator:

--- Quote from: So Glorious on January 01, 2008, 09:03:55 PM ---We cannot afford socialism, period

--- End quote ---

Too bad.  My Pan-African Socialist Republic is inevitable.

Machiavelli:

--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 02, 2008, 06:05:00 AM ---
--- Quote from: Ron Paul = greatest American since Thomas Jefferson on January 01, 2008, 08:09:20 PM ---I don't really even know where to start here.  One, you're grossly misinformed or simply ignorant to Paul's platform apparently.  He's not for a flat tax (thats Huckabee who is truly leftist masquerading as a Republican), he's for NO INCOME TAX.  Our country and government worked just fine before we amended the constitution for it.  It ties in perfectly with his foreign policy of non-intervention.  When we're not spending $1 TRILLION (yes, I said TRILLION) on a war that 70% of the country is against, you don't need nearly as much in tax dollars.  And Paul acknowledges that you can't just walk in and flip the switch to turn off the IRS.  He's 72 years old, he's been around the block.  He will propose phasing it out.  Paul introduces more legislation to congress than any other member.  Trust that he will continue to do so in regards to the income tax.  If America elects Ron Paul and Congress is vetoing everything he does, the American people will not sit by idly.  These people will be replaced by those who hold ideals similar to Paul when the elections for Senate and House come around again.

And I'll say it again, not supporting ideals and fundamentals of someone because you don't think they'll win is bitchmade.  It reeks of accepting failure and uselessness.

You're supporting Hillary Clinton?  Are you serious?  She's a corrupt, communist, career politician which makes her an extremely slimy bitch.  Do you have any clue about how much scandal her and ol Billy have been entrenched in over the last 40 years?  You'd really trust someone like that?  And if you think taxes are high now, just wait till she steps in.

And of course the Democrats would never elect a guy like Paul.  What would make you think a party based on high taxes and socialism would embrace Ron Paul?  He's for self-reliance and accountability.  Pretty much the polar opposite of a Democrat.

Stick to the nintendo games bro.

--- End quote ---

The sole source of the u.s. government's money is the income tax.  If you're saying Paul doesn't want to replace it with a fair tax than you just described him as more crazy than he existed in even my own mind.  It's impossible to simply phase out the I.R.S., it would never work.  You say that we spend a trillion in Iraq, following Ron's policy would leave the country with no money to defend itself if a war ever presented that was inevitable. 

As for his record, yeah, I know about his record.  For instance, he makes sure to get his own earmarks in congressional budgets to bring home tax money to his state, even though he says he's against that.  That's interesting.

He introduces more legislation than any other member (arguably) but how many pass?  That's a good example of what a Ron Paul presidency would be like.

Or even better, look at a Ron Paul campaign.  He can't win 1 state.  Anybody with any intelligence sees that he talks a good talk, but doesn't accomplish anything.

Now, Hillary! THERE'S Somebody ready to lead on day 1 in Washington.  Vote Hillary!!!!

--- End quote ---

over 30% of goverments money is from the income tax. how do u think this county worked for 130 years without income tax? tarifs, user fees,...anything thing is better then the income tax though if u have to replace it with anything.


and he's a congressman, he represents the people of his district. if they want want tax money is he gunna say no? thats his whole point


Teddy Roosevelt:

--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 02, 2008, 06:05:00 AM ---The sole source of the u.s. government's money is the income tax.  If you're saying Paul doesn't want to replace it with a fair tax than you just described him as more crazy than he existed in even my own mind.  It's impossible to simply phase out the I.R.S., it would never work.  You say that we spend a trillion in Iraq, following Ron's policy would leave the country with no money to defend itself if a war ever presented that was inevitable. 

--- End quote ---
Income tax only makes up about 33% of income for the government. Since 1996 the government has increased spending by about one third. I'm sure even you can do the math.

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