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your opinions on peace VS violence
Primo:
Violence is like a disease. You cannot spread peace threw violence because it breeds more violence. The only way I think you should kill another human is if they are a direct threat to you or a loved one.
swangin and bangin:
--- Quote from: So Glorious on January 01, 2008, 09:01:24 PM ---Violence is like a disease. You cannot spread peace threw violence because it breeds more violence. The only way I think you should kill another human is if they are a direct threat to you or a loved one.
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exactly
end of topic
props doggie i couldnt get that out
Elevz:
Ignoring the pointless tampon comments, this sure is an interesting topic.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---you know all the important people in history like DR. Martin Luther King Jr, and Malcolm X and others,
some fought with peace against violence and some said fuck it if u got guns we gona get guns like the black panthers
i think if muthafuckers come at you with shit then you have the right to fuck them up. IMO
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Violence should only be allowed in self-defense. You have the right to protect yourself against a threat to your life and your rightful freedoms. No more, no less. That doesn't justify punching someone who accidentally stands on your toes, or shooting someone who purposely kicks you against the knee, and it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---see that fool ghandi, i think he was a retard for starving himself and shit for peace and shit. didnt his ass get shot anyway?
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I find it hard to judge the motives of another man I know little of. His actions probably didn't change a whole lot about the way people behave, but at the same time, you did mention his name straight away when you talk about peace or pacifism. Starving for peace won't really solve anything though.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---some good quotes
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."
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The possibility to achieve freedom can be granted by a rightful society, but you'll always have to achieve the freedom yourself. But what is freedom if it's acquired through an unrightful way, by means of violence? And if you're allowed to use violence to get freedom through violence, is somebody else allowed to use violence to get his in an unrightful way? That goes against the laws of the peace that's required for freedom to become real. That's preaching anarchy.
You can't take freedom; you and the people everywhere around you have to create the right atmosphere to make it.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."
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Aren't peace and freedom in some way synonymous? Isn't freedom another word for the achievement of complete internal and external peace?
Narrator:
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 02, 2008, 12:09:35 PM ---it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.
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Sure it does. Killing crackers is what Allah wills. Also, do not contradict me or you will lose your hands.
swangin and bangin:
--- Quote from: Foday-muh'fuckin-Sankoh, bitch! on January 02, 2008, 12:14:43 PM ---
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 02, 2008, 12:09:35 PM ---it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.
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Sure it does. Killing crackers is what Allah wills. Also, do not contradict me or you will lose your hands.
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what about the white people that convert to islam?
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 02, 2008, 12:09:35 PM ---Ignoring the pointless tampon comments, this sure is an interesting topic.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---you know all the important people in history like DR. Martin Luther King Jr, and Malcolm X and others,
some fought with peace against violence and some said fuck it if u got guns we gona get guns like the black panthers
i think if muthafuckers come at you with shit then you have the right to fuck them up. IMO
--- End quote ---
Violence should only be allowed in self-defense. You have the right to protect yourself against a threat to your life and your rightful freedoms. No more, no less. That doesn't justify punching someone who accidentally stands on your toes, or shooting someone who purposely kicks you against the knee, and it certainly doesn't justify 'killing some random crackers because Uncle Sam once mistreated the black man'.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---see that fool ghandi, i think he was a retard for starving himself and shit for peace and shit. didnt his ass get shot anyway?
--- End quote ---
I find it hard to judge the motives of another man I know little of. His actions probably didn't change a whole lot about the way people behave, but at the same time, you did mention his name straight away when you talk about peace or pacifism. Starving for peace won't really solve anything though.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---some good quotes
"Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it."
--- End quote ---
The possibility to achieve freedom can be granted by a rightful society, but you'll always have to achieve the freedom yourself. But what is freedom if it's acquired through an unrightful way, by means of violence? And if you're allowed to use violence to get freedom through violence, is somebody else allowed to use violence to get his in an unrightful way? That goes against the laws of the peace that's required for freedom to become real. That's preaching anarchy.
You can't take freedom; you and the people everywhere around you have to create the right atmosphere to make it.
--- Quote from: swangin and bangin on December 31, 2007, 02:38:45 AM ---"You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."
--- End quote ---
Aren't peace and freedom in some way synonymous? Isn't freedom another word for the achievement of complete internal and external peace?
--- End quote ---
yes
thats why you cant separate them because you cant have one without the other
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