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Quote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on January 06, 2008, 02:21:34 PMI disagree basicallyAnd why is that?
Why is it that grown ups who used to get picked on when they were little, always feel like they had some injustice done to them, as if the bullies need to be confronted with the evil they did? The evil kids picked on them at school, the teachers did nothing about it, they suffered in a major way, and their entire youth was ruined because some others didn't believe in unconditional flower power and free hugs for all.I think it's only human to be in competition with the people around you, in a battle for social acceptance and prestige. People want respect; it's a natural consequence of the liberal individualist society we live in to compete with those around you. Verbal dexterity and wit are used as tools to make yourself distinctive and have others to notice you. You discredit others, to the benefit of your own image. Such is life.I see a battle for social acceptance just about everywhere I look. We used to do it when we were little, and we still take shots at friends and colleagues; it's all assertiveness. The difference is that in some situations where the bullies aren't mentally cultivated enough (yet), it might end up in violence. Violence is always wrong (hence why cultivation through civilisation is a necessity), but is it wrong to call people out and make jokes?I believe the ones complaining about bullying having ruined their youth, need to get real with their social existance. Everyone gets the challenge, and only a few who are incapable of acting correctly ultimately end up hurt from it. Don't blame the ones who make fun of you, blame your own weakness instead. The ones who feel like they got bullied most likely didn't comply with the social standards. They only assumed they were the victims of an evil, because they let themselves be put in that position. It threatens their being, because their being won't fit in with the rest of the social environment. They only have themselves to blame for that. Adapt if you can and wish to, or accept your loss. This is how bullying becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.The bullier isn't evil, the one who got bullied isn't a victim. Ask yourself, why does the bullier hardly recall the evil he supposedly did, while the victim seems to know all too well about everything that was done to him? Perhaps bullying is just a phenomenon invented by an altruist society which wishes to pamper the meek and not let them come to terms with the sharp colors of reality. I say it's time to get real and stop acting like they're deserving of our sympathy. They're not virtuous.
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 06, 2008, 02:11:15 PMWhy is it that grown ups who used to get picked on when they were little, always feel like they had some injustice done to them, as if the bullies need to be confronted with the evil they did? The evil kids picked on them at school, the teachers did nothing about it, they suffered in a major way, and their entire youth was ruined because some others didn't believe in unconditional flower power and free hugs for all.I think it's only human to be in competition with the people around you, in a battle for social acceptance and prestige. People want respect; it's a natural consequence of the liberal individualist society we live in to compete with those around you. Verbal dexterity and wit are used as tools to make yourself distinctive and have others to notice you. You discredit others, to the benefit of your own image. Such is life.I see a battle for social acceptance just about everywhere I look. We used to do it when we were little, and we still take shots at friends and colleagues; it's all assertiveness. The difference is that in some situations where the bullies aren't mentally cultivated enough (yet), it might end up in violence. Violence is always wrong (hence why cultivation through civilisation is a necessity), but is it wrong to call people out and make jokes?I believe the ones complaining about bullying having ruined their youth, need to get real with their social existance. Everyone gets the challenge, and only a few who are incapable of acting correctly ultimately end up hurt from it. Don't blame the ones who make fun of you, blame your own weakness instead. The ones who feel like they got bullied most likely didn't comply with the social standards. They only assumed they were the victims of an evil, because they let themselves be put in that position. It threatens their being, because their being won't fit in with the rest of the social environment. They only have themselves to blame for that. Adapt if you can and wish to, or accept your loss. This is how bullying becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.The bullier isn't evil, the one who got bullied isn't a victim. Ask yourself, why does the bullier hardly recall the evil he supposedly did, while the victim seems to know all too well about everything that was done to him? Perhaps bullying is just a phenomenon invented by an altruist society which wishes to pamper the meek and not let them come to terms with the sharp colors of reality. I say it's time to get real and stop acting like they're deserving of our sympathy. They're not virtuous.i agree because its the victim that chooses to be a victim. for bullying that is.
Quote from: LooN3y on January 06, 2008, 11:22:54 PMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 06, 2008, 02:11:15 PMWhy is it that grown ups who used to get picked on when they were little, always feel like they had some injustice done to them, as if the bullies need to be confronted with the evil they did? The evil kids picked on them at school, the teachers did nothing about it, they suffered in a major way, and their entire youth was ruined because some others didn't believe in unconditional flower power and free hugs for all.I think it's only human to be in competition with the people around you, in a battle for social acceptance and prestige. People want respect; it's a natural consequence of the liberal individualist society we live in to compete with those around you. Verbal dexterity and wit are used as tools to make yourself distinctive and have others to notice you. You discredit others, to the benefit of your own image. Such is life.I see a battle for social acceptance just about everywhere I look. We used to do it when we were little, and we still take shots at friends and colleagues; it's all assertiveness. The difference is that in some situations where the bullies aren't mentally cultivated enough (yet), it might end up in violence. Violence is always wrong (hence why cultivation through civilisation is a necessity), but is it wrong to call people out and make jokes?I believe the ones complaining about bullying having ruined their youth, need to get real with their social existance. Everyone gets the challenge, and only a few who are incapable of acting correctly ultimately end up hurt from it. Don't blame the ones who make fun of you, blame your own weakness instead. The ones who feel like they got bullied most likely didn't comply with the social standards. They only assumed they were the victims of an evil, because they let themselves be put in that position. It threatens their being, because their being won't fit in with the rest of the social environment. They only have themselves to blame for that. Adapt if you can and wish to, or accept your loss. This is how bullying becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.The bullier isn't evil, the one who got bullied isn't a victim. Ask yourself, why does the bullier hardly recall the evil he supposedly did, while the victim seems to know all too well about everything that was done to him? Perhaps bullying is just a phenomenon invented by an altruist society which wishes to pamper the meek and not let them come to terms with the sharp colors of reality. I say it's time to get real and stop acting like they're deserving of our sympathy. They're not virtuous.i agree because its the victim that chooses to be a victim. for bullying that is.so how did u deal with getting shitted on everyday?back to the topic i think it is very easy to avoid being a bully and a victim at the same time. to me, to be a bully it shows insecurity, ignorance and wanting attention. to be the victim shows that you are a weak person(mentally). and most people that are victims cause it by stirring up the bully by giving him what he wants, positive attention. i aint never been a bully type or been fucked with like that. just be yourself, say what needs to be said but dont give a fucking speech.also it is good to be witty with words. usually bullys are little bitches inside and the victim got balls the size of bowling balls for shooting up a school. thats IMO
Quote from: swangin and bangin on January 06, 2008, 11:52:13 PMQuote from: LooN3y on January 06, 2008, 11:22:54 PMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 06, 2008, 02:11:15 PMWhy is it that grown ups who used to get picked on when they were little, always feel like they had some injustice done to them, as if the bullies need to be confronted with the evil they did? The evil kids picked on them at school, the teachers did nothing about it, they suffered in a major way, and their entire youth was ruined because some others didn't believe in unconditional flower power and free hugs for all.I think it's only human to be in competition with the people around you, in a battle for social acceptance and prestige. People want respect; it's a natural consequence of the liberal individualist society we live in to compete with those around you. Verbal dexterity and wit are used as tools to make yourself distinctive and have others to notice you. You discredit others, to the benefit of your own image. Such is life.I see a battle for social acceptance just about everywhere I look. We used to do it when we were little, and we still take shots at friends and colleagues; it's all assertiveness. The difference is that in some situations where the bullies aren't mentally cultivated enough (yet), it might end up in violence. Violence is always wrong (hence why cultivation through civilisation is a necessity), but is it wrong to call people out and make jokes?I believe the ones complaining about bullying having ruined their youth, need to get real with their social existance. Everyone gets the challenge, and only a few who are incapable of acting correctly ultimately end up hurt from it. Don't blame the ones who make fun of you, blame your own weakness instead. The ones who feel like they got bullied most likely didn't comply with the social standards. They only assumed they were the victims of an evil, because they let themselves be put in that position. It threatens their being, because their being won't fit in with the rest of the social environment. They only have themselves to blame for that. Adapt if you can and wish to, or accept your loss. This is how bullying becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.The bullier isn't evil, the one who got bullied isn't a victim. Ask yourself, why does the bullier hardly recall the evil he supposedly did, while the victim seems to know all too well about everything that was done to him? Perhaps bullying is just a phenomenon invented by an altruist society which wishes to pamper the meek and not let them come to terms with the sharp colors of reality. I say it's time to get real and stop acting like they're deserving of our sympathy. They're not virtuous.i agree because its the victim that chooses to be a victim. for bullying that is.so how did u deal with getting shitted on everyday?back to the topic i think it is very easy to avoid being a bully and a victim at the same time. to me, to be a bully it shows insecurity, ignorance and wanting attention. to be the victim shows that you are a weak person(mentally). and most people that are victims cause it by stirring up the bully by giving him what he wants, positive attention. i aint never been a bully type or been fucked with like that. just be yourself, say what needs to be said but dont give a fucking speech.also it is good to be witty with words. usually bullys are little bitches inside and the victim got balls the size of bowling balls for shooting up a school. thats IMOhaha shut the fuck up. but you never know ur generalizing and stereotyping too much. im juz saying i have less sympathy to the victim
please shut the fuck up
Quote from: swangin and bangin on January 07, 2008, 03:11:52 AMplease shut the fuck up