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Major Or Indie Deal?
Trauma-san:
You've got to be ignorant to suggest that a good label deal for Bob Dylan would work for anybody. Bob Dylan is a legend. He's likely one of the most talented musicians that ever lived, at least from a songwriting standpoint.... there isn't a rapper alive with the clout that Bob Dylan has, he doesn't even need to promote his albums, his fans will seek them out, find where they are available, and then buy two copies so they can save one. So of course an indy deal works better for Dylan, he gets more per c.d. and will likely sell just as many or more on an indy label.... especially considering that most of his fans are sympathetic hippies who hate the man and would love to stick it to Sony by only buying Dylan's independent releases.
Plain facts are that rap and hip hop are bootlegged the most out of all the genres of music, so if we're talking about hiphop and rap and an established artist, the net definately hurts. If it's a new act, the net helps because it's free promotion which is what they need the most.
I gotta say too to 7even that I agree about the shit about rapping about commiting crimes than bitching that somebody 'stole' their music, LOL! What a fucking joke.
Elevz:
--- Quote from: 7even is the next Iwan Karamasow on January 10, 2008, 01:44:59 PM ---They are just shifting the blame. It happens all the time. Young outcasts get shotguns and kill people in their school, it's videogames causing it. Same shit. Lately in Germany there's this discussion because foreigners beat up people for no reason all the time. So some politicans with no nuts go ahead and want to soften the tv program. How retarded is that? It happens all the time. People are shifting the blame towards something that is less akward ciriticizing, or that has less of a lobby to counter.
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I don't know about the German situation, but watching tv surely can make people more violent. Thing is, for some foreigners randomly beating up people, to be blamed on their tv watching behavior, that's simply absurd. TV may have had its part in a process, but to blame the outcome on the tv shows... :grumpy:
It's kinda easy though for politicians to just shout something like that, act like you're the one to solve the problem because you know how to do it, and up goes your popularity. Long live the democracy in an ignorant world.
Elevz:
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 10, 2008, 01:54:07 PM ---You've got to be ignorant to suggest that a good label deal for Bob Dylan would work for anybody. Bob Dylan is a legend. He's likely one of the most talented musicians that ever lived, at least from a songwriting standpoint.... there isn't a rapper alive with the clout that Bob Dylan has, he doesn't even need to promote his albums, his fans will seek them out, find where they are available, and then buy two copies so they can save one. So of course an indy deal works better for Dylan, he gets more per c.d. and will likely sell just as many or more on an indy label.... especially considering that most of his fans are sympathetic hippies who hate the man and would love to stick it to Sony by only buying Dylan's independent releases.
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That's not what I said anyway, but sure. So them hippies refused to buy Dylan's records while he was on a major, but now that he's gone indie he's all of a sudden going platinum again because the hippies of the '60s forty years later decided to make a statement, hundreds of thousands at a time, without someone initiating the action? How reasonable do you think that sounds?
Trauma-san:
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on January 10, 2008, 02:00:15 PM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 10, 2008, 01:54:07 PM ---You've got to be ignorant to suggest that a good label deal for Bob Dylan would work for anybody. Bob Dylan is a legend. He's likely one of the most talented musicians that ever lived, at least from a songwriting standpoint.... there isn't a rapper alive with the clout that Bob Dylan has, he doesn't even need to promote his albums, his fans will seek them out, find where they are available, and then buy two copies so they can save one. So of course an indy deal works better for Dylan, he gets more per c.d. and will likely sell just as many or more on an indy label.... especially considering that most of his fans are sympathetic hippies who hate the man and would love to stick it to Sony by only buying Dylan's independent releases.
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That's not what I said anyway, but sure. So them hippies refused to buy Dylan's records while he was on a major, but now that he's gone indie he's all of a sudden going platinum again because the hippies of the '60s forty years later decided to make a statement, hundreds of thousands at a time, without someone initiating the action? How reasonable do you think that sounds?
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You mischaracterized what I said. I said that's part of the issue, and I'm not talking about people in their 60's, I'm talking about people in their 20's who would bootleg a major label release but think they're helping Bob by buying it if it's independent. Hippies don't have to be 60. I beat the shit out of 20 year old hippies all the time.... which leads me to my next question. You're not a hippie, are you?
Tha Psycho Hustla:
--- Quote ---I beat the shit out of 20 year old hippies all the time.... which leads me to my next question. You're not a hippie, are you?
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lol.
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