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ISLAM AND SCIENCE -OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH-
Nat Turner-reincarnated:
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 10, 2008, 03:41:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: True knowledge--take a dose on January 10, 2008, 02:41:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 10, 2008, 02:33:28 PM ---As I get older I begin to realize what many people have realized before me, Science is nothing more than another religion, and all religion attempts to understand the world we're in, all go about it in a different way, Science abandons faith for instance, etc.... therefore it's not strange at all to me that Science and religion would have similar parallel points.
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WHen u guys say science do you mean the Scientology shit Tom Cruise is in?
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no,no,no. That's another religion. I mean Science as taught in school, as reported in the news, SCIENCE, scientists are actually practicing a religion. I'm not saying I'm against it, I'm not against any religion. I'm just saying that Science is a religion just like Christianity is a religion, and there's no validity in picking science over religion. As the guy was showing above, just like Islam and Christianity has a lot of similarities, Science and Islam or Science and Christianity also share similar fundamentals because they're all types of religion. People worship the Global Warming theory, for instance, in much the same way people worship the creation theory.
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yea but one thing i think thats different between the two is that science has facts. and religion is based solely on faith and belief which leaves room for errors,inconsistency/ doubt etc. With science its possible that one can say " I Know such such" but with religion all they can say is " I be- LIE-ve such such".
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: True knowledge--take a dose on January 10, 2008, 03:51:18 PM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 10, 2008, 03:41:58 PM ---
--- Quote from: True knowledge--take a dose on January 10, 2008, 02:41:54 PM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on January 10, 2008, 02:33:28 PM ---As I get older I begin to realize what many people have realized before me, Science is nothing more than another religion, and all religion attempts to understand the world we're in, all go about it in a different way, Science abandons faith for instance, etc.... therefore it's not strange at all to me that Science and religion would have similar parallel points.
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WHen u guys say science do you mean the Scientology shit Tom Cruise is in?
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no,no,no. That's another religion. I mean Science as taught in school, as reported in the news, SCIENCE, scientists are actually practicing a religion. I'm not saying I'm against it, I'm not against any religion. I'm just saying that Science is a religion just like Christianity is a religion, and there's no validity in picking science over religion. As the guy was showing above, just like Islam and Christianity has a lot of similarities, Science and Islam or Science and Christianity also share similar fundamentals because they're all types of religion. People worship the Global Warming theory, for instance, in much the same way people worship the creation theory.
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yea but one thing i think thats different between the two is that science has facts. and religion is based solely on faith and belief which leaves room for errors,inconsistency/ doubt etc. With science its possible that one can say " I Know such such" but with religion all they can say is " I be- LIE-ve such such".
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Depends how you look at it... in your post you presented quotes from the Quran that make scientific statements... some of these things weren't "proven" by scientists until centuries later... now here's the thing, the Quran is believed to be God's word... so if God states "the Earth is a sphere"... all scientists end up doing is proving what was already stated using mathematics, etc... throughout history, the more scientists have discovered, the more has been in parallel with religion... and on top of that, science is mostly based on theories, estimates, assumptions, etc... I mean do you really believe anybody has any fucking clue how hot the core of the Sun gets?....and on top of that, there are always new theories replacing or changing old ones... put it this way, Pluto isn't even a fucking planet anymore... a few years ago "Pluto is a planet" was a 'fact'... now it's not... so much for facts.
Mackin:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on January 09, 2008, 04:53:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on January 09, 2008, 03:13:02 PM ---Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??
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Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.
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...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!
Nat Turner-reincarnated:
--- Quote from: Mackin4Life on January 11, 2008, 05:10:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on January 09, 2008, 04:53:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on January 09, 2008, 03:13:02 PM ---Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??
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Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.
--- End quote ---
...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!
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really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
Mackin:
--- Quote from: True knowledge--take a dose on January 11, 2008, 05:14:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Mackin4Life on January 11, 2008, 05:10:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on January 09, 2008, 04:53:04 PM ---
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on January 09, 2008, 03:13:02 PM ---Do ya'll call God, Allah, God, or both??
--- End quote ---
Allah is just the Arabic term for God... Arab Christians use the word Allah to refer to God, just like Spanish-speaking Christians say "Dios", etc... all referring to the same God.
--- End quote ---
...Well that's One way To Look at it J @ M @ L!!
But The Christian God is not considered Allah of the Islam faith though..
Even though Arab-Christians refer to Him as 'Allah' due to their native tongue,but in reality there are two separate Beings!
I'm not dissing you or anything, I'm just trying to explain from perspective!!
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really? i always thought they were the same God. Because the prophets are in the Koran. Its just that to Muslims, Mohammad was the last prophet to bring the word of God.
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^Well according to the Muslim faith yes,that would be accurate!!
However in the Xtian faith,it's different!!
Both deities are so different in their relationship towards man,that it's so clear to see..
And on that note, I'll say no more!
Not that i don't know what I'm talking about, rather not to offend others of different faith!!
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