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Tom Cruise and his wacked out scientology
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: white Boy on January 22, 2008, 09:42:55 AM ---yea, im agnostic, i feel athiasm is way too stuborn and sure of themselves, i dont fuckin know whats going on, and im not going to pretend like i do (in terms of exestetial questions about life)
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some would consider you an atheist.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: 7even on January 22, 2008, 09:20:24 AM ---I am a blatant atheist and ruining the lives of cool believers never crossed my mind, ever.
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Ok folks, lets see something here...
You are a self described "blatant atheist" which I take to mean you are what QuietTruth calls an "extreme atheist."
1.Have you ever really cared what someone else believes so long as they do not make it their responsibilty to Bible (or -insert religious document here-) thump you to death?
2.Do you care if the pledge of allegiance says "under God?"
3.Are you "out to get" the believers?
4.If you do celebrate Christmas, are you celebrating the birth of Jesus or family togetherness or something entirely different?
5.Do you think you are inherently smarter than every religious person on the planet?
6.Are you "selfish, selfish, selfish?"
7even:
1. You do you and I do me. As long as people don't do/say something annoying due to their faith, I have no problem whatsoever. However, if people start to discuss about religion, God and everything, I am going to give my opinon and argue just like everyone else. No hard feelings or anything. Some people can get offended though. I don't really do this anymore, though. A few years ago I did this a lot on this board, but not really to put my belief on others, but to articulate and shape my thoughts. I was still finding my way. I got to a point where I got it all pretty much figured out for me. That doesn't mean that I'm right and people who disagree are wrong or anything, all it means that I got my mind set in that department. Just like the next dude, who believes in the coming of Jesus or something.
2. I am not American so I don't know. However I do think that state and church should be seperated. Religion should be taught in school, but on a volantary basis. Children who don't want to take religion classes should have the right to take classes like ethics or philosophy instead, without anybody looking at them the wrong way.
3. No, if anything I am out to get assholes who make life hell for other people. Sometimes, those people can be fanatic, fundamentalist believers. Never were I out to get people like my brother who just believes in Christianity or my sister who believes in Spirituality. Not because we're blood or anything, but because they never do some shit that some annoying believers do. I don't have to get into what those things are, we all know.
4. I don't really celebrate Christmas or Easter to begin with. I might give a little something to my nieces and nephews cause they are little and you are supposed to have those kind of uniting, magical moments in the family when you are young. Never would I celebrate the birth of Jesus or anything, of course. Do you really think the average little child in the western hemisphere is eager for Christmas because Jesus was born that day? Come on now. It's about family and presents.
5. Of course not.
6. No, not at all. What's cheap are those people who normally would be total assholes but try to behave morally in order to get rewards from God, get a good Karma, go to heaven, etc... that's selfish. Me, when I do something good, which I do more often than most people, I just do it. No thoughts about rewards whatsoever. As soon as I do something "nice" in order to get something pleasant for myself in return, I don't regard the action as something unselfish and inherently good. Like, I never do this, but it's a good example: If you buy some girl a drink, you don't do it out of plain altruism. You don't do it because you feel sorry for her and you really want to just do her a favor and buy her a drink. You do it so she'll feel obliged to talking to you, and after that you can have sex with her if you are lucky. Bottom line, you do it to get laid. So, tell me, how is buying a girl a drink an unselfish, inherently good action? It is not. Neither is acting good because you think God sees everything and judges you accordingly. Please believe it.
Fuck Your Existence:
--- Quote from: 7even on January 22, 2008, 01:21:28 PM ---1. You do you and I do me. As long as people don't do/say something annoying due to their faith, I have no problem whatsoever. However, if people start to discuss about religion, God and everything, I am going to give my opinon and argue just like everyone else. No hard feelings or anything. Some people can get offended though. I don't really do this anymore, though. A few years ago I did this a lot on this board, but not really to put my belief on others, but to articulate and shape my thoughts. I was still finding my way. I got to a point where I got it all pretty much figured out for me. That doesn't mean that I'm right and people who disagree are wrong or anything, all it means that I got my mind set in that department. Just like the next dude, who believes in the coming of Jesus or something.
2. I am not American so I don't know. However I do think that state and church should be seperated. Religion should be taught in school, but on a volantary basis. Children who don't want to take religion classes should have the right to take classes like ethics or philosophy instead, without anybody looking at them the wrong way.
3. No, if anything I am out to get assholes who make life hell for other people. Sometimes, those people can be fanatic, fundamentalist believers. Never were I out to get people like my brother who just believes in Christianity or my sister who believes in Spirituality. Not because we're blood or anything, but because they never do some shit that some annoying believers do. I don't have to get into what those things are, we all know.
4. I don't really celebrate Christmas or Easter to begin with. I might give a little something to my nieces and nephews cause they are little and you are supposed to have those kind of uniting, magical moments in the family when you are young. Never would I celebrate the birth of Jesus or anything, of course. Do you really think the average little child in the western hemisphere is eager for Christmas because Jesus was born that day? Come on now. It's about family and presents.
5. Of course not.
6. No, not at all. What's cheap are those people who normally would be total assholes but try to behave morally in order to get rewards from God, get a good Karma, go to heaven, etc... that's selfish. Me, when I do something good, which I do more often than most people, I just do it. No thoughts about rewards whatsoever. As soon as I do something "nice" in order to get something pleasant for myself in return, I don't regard the action as something unselfish and inherently good. Like, I never do this, but it's a good example: If you buy some girl a drink, you don't do it out of plain altruism. You don't do it because you feel sorry for her and you really want to just do her a favor and buy her a drink. You do it so she'll feel obliged to talking to you, and after that you can have sex with her if you are lucky. Bottom line, you do it to get laid. So, tell me, how is buying a girl a drink an unselfish, inherently good action? It is not. Neither is acting good because you think God sees everything and judges you accordingly. Please believe it.
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+1
Trauma-san:
You're telling everyone your opinion of religious people, and you're generalizing. You don't represent or describe me or mine with your words... which again shows me that you're selfish, motherfucka. You THINK you know what I'm thinking, but in reality you dont' know shit.
Which is why I don't talk shit about Agnostics. Nothing wrong with being an Agnostic. If you've decided there is no god, though, then you are a piece of shit.
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