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Quote from: Mygla on January 05, 2008, 02:52:05 PMQuote from: .:Hercy Buggz:. on January 05, 2008, 01:18:10 PMIn Rap I will say Dr.Dre, no doubt Dr.Dre did alot for Rap...but as far as hiphop goes, I'll give it to Puff, must of yall will disagree since its a west coast forum and full of Dr.Dre groupies, but on the real outside Rap what did Andre Young Do?, he failed with the RNB records he put out, and he was only good with Rap.. while with Puffy he was universal...of course like the homie said no Dr.Dre . no NWA, no Death Row and No Aftermath...but what about Puff? no Puff, no Mary J, No Jodeci, and if u think about it No Jodeci...no timbaland & Missy and the list goes on..I really don't see the connection between the claim and the arguments... (bold parts)Many people from the MTV/BET generation seem to think that r&b is hiphop... well it isn't. Not accusing you of anything, because you seem like a bright fella most of the time. But I strongly disagree with your statement.*edit*Thus, Dre obviously gets my vote. Since it's hiphop we're talking here... but as R-Tistic points out in the post above me, if we're talking the entertainment world on a more general basis, Puffy gets it.to me R&B & Rap are 2 Genre in the Hiphop Unbrella..so yes to me Dr.Dre did alot for RAP...he basically the Quincy Jones OF RAP, To Me Puffy is responsible for alot of acts success wich inspired others to be successful today and its in Hiphop In General, and he is a really good executive producer he was able to produce albums outside his own label and they were all successful, and Marketing wise Puffy had it on him also, even with the remixes in Rap & R&B. of Course there was the sampling issue, but atleast Puffy was doing it right, u cant tell that all the songs he sampled sucks because it was done right. to me when i hear Puff Daddy I hear Hiphop Mogol.. when I Hear Dr.Dre I hear Rap Legend..wich is 2 different things...
Quote from: .:Hercy Buggz:. on January 05, 2008, 01:18:10 PMIn Rap I will say Dr.Dre, no doubt Dr.Dre did alot for Rap...but as far as hiphop goes, I'll give it to Puff, must of yall will disagree since its a west coast forum and full of Dr.Dre groupies, but on the real outside Rap what did Andre Young Do?, he failed with the RNB records he put out, and he was only good with Rap.. while with Puffy he was universal...of course like the homie said no Dr.Dre . no NWA, no Death Row and No Aftermath...but what about Puff? no Puff, no Mary J, No Jodeci, and if u think about it No Jodeci...no timbaland & Missy and the list goes on..I really don't see the connection between the claim and the arguments... (bold parts)Many people from the MTV/BET generation seem to think that r&b is hiphop... well it isn't. Not accusing you of anything, because you seem like a bright fella most of the time. But I strongly disagree with your statement.*edit*Thus, Dre obviously gets my vote. Since it's hiphop we're talking here... but as R-Tistic points out in the post above me, if we're talking the entertainment world on a more general basis, Puffy gets it.
In Rap I will say Dr.Dre, no doubt Dr.Dre did alot for Rap...but as far as hiphop goes, I'll give it to Puff, must of yall will disagree since its a west coast forum and full of Dr.Dre groupies, but on the real outside Rap what did Andre Young Do?, he failed with the RNB records he put out, and he was only good with Rap.. while with Puffy he was universal...of course like the homie said no Dr.Dre . no NWA, no Death Row and No Aftermath...but what about Puff? no Puff, no Mary J, No Jodeci, and if u think about it No Jodeci...no timbaland & Missy and the list goes on..
Quote from: .:Hercy Buggz:. on January 05, 2008, 03:12:36 PMQuote from: Mygla on January 05, 2008, 02:52:05 PMQuote from: .:Hercy Buggz:. on January 05, 2008, 01:18:10 PMIn Rap I will say Dr.Dre, no doubt Dr.Dre did alot for Rap...but as far as hiphop goes, I'll give it to Puff, must of yall will disagree since its a west coast forum and full of Dr.Dre groupies, but on the real outside Rap what did Andre Young Do?, he failed with the RNB records he put out, and he was only good with Rap.. while with Puffy he was universal...of course like the homie said no Dr.Dre . no NWA, no Death Row and No Aftermath...but what about Puff? no Puff, no Mary J, No Jodeci, and if u think about it No Jodeci...no timbaland & Missy and the list goes on..I really don't see the connection between the claim and the arguments... (bold parts)Many people from the MTV/BET generation seem to think that r&b is hiphop... well it isn't. Not accusing you of anything, because you seem like a bright fella most of the time. But I strongly disagree with your statement.*edit*Thus, Dre obviously gets my vote. Since it's hiphop we're talking here... but as R-Tistic points out in the post above me, if we're talking the entertainment world on a more general basis, Puffy gets it.to me R&B & Rap are 2 Genre in the Hiphop Unbrella..so yes to me Dr.Dre did alot for RAP...he basically the Quincy Jones OF RAP, To Me Puffy is responsible for alot of acts success wich inspired others to be successful today and its in Hiphop In General, and he is a really good executive producer he was able to produce albums outside his own label and they were all successful, and Marketing wise Puffy had it on him also, even with the remixes in Rap & R&B. of Course there was the sampling issue, but atleast Puffy was doing it right, u cant tell that all the songs he sampled sucks because it was done right. to me when i hear Puff Daddy I hear Hiphop Mogol.. when I Hear Dr.Dre I hear Rap Legend..wich is 2 different things...When I hear Puff Daddy, I hear entertainment mogul.. When I hear Dr. Dre I hear hiphop legend
Is this even fair? It's a West Coast forum who do you think people are gonna choose? Dre of course, I'd choose him too though
Puffy said in an MTV interview back in the mid 90's, when talking about a brewing East-West beef that if there was no Death Row, there'd be no Bad Boy Records. Dre helped birth a genre. Close thread.