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shyness
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 31, 2008, 02:25:03 AM ---Shyness and obnoxiousness aren't exactly opposites. As if someone who's not obnoxious is necessarily shy... :grumpy:
--- Quote from: Abd. Infinite presents... Real Hip-Hop on March 28, 2008, 05:50:52 PM ---They say the Prophet Muhammad was know for his shyness, yet he was one of the greatest world leaders history has ever known
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Had you had a critical mind, you would have been able to recognise that such a thing is IMPOSSIBLE. You cannot lead millions of people whilst being distrustful or wary of strangers. Or are you implying that your sacred prophet perhaps was a schizophrenic, or someone with a split ego?
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Just because someone is shy does not mean they are "distrustful and wary of strangers". Being shy represents the Prophet's modesty. He did not want to stare at women, or waste words talking, and was very particular about the things he said and did.
Now_Im_Not_Banned:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 31, 2008, 03:31:18 PM ---People sayin' shyness is a 'Condition'..low self esteem, no confidence, when it ain't, always. It's more a personality trait...born with, what you experienced that made you that way.
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low self-esteem and no confidence tie in with shyness, in most cases.
Elevz:
--- Quote from: Abd. Infinite presents... Real Hip-Hop on March 31, 2008, 03:42:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 31, 2008, 02:25:03 AM ---Shyness and obnoxiousness aren't exactly opposites. As if someone who's not obnoxious is necessarily shy... :grumpy:
--- Quote from: Abd. Infinite presents... Real Hip-Hop on March 28, 2008, 05:50:52 PM ---They say the Prophet Muhammad was know for his shyness, yet he was one of the greatest world leaders history has ever known
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Had you had a critical mind, you would have been able to recognise that such a thing is IMPOSSIBLE. You cannot lead millions of people whilst being distrustful or wary of strangers. Or are you implying that your sacred prophet perhaps was a schizophrenic, or someone with a split ego?
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Just because someone is shy does not mean they are "distrustful and wary of strangers". Being shy represents the Prophet's modesty. He did not want to stare at women, or waste words talking, and was very particular about the things he said and did.
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Why, then...
"shy1 (shī) pronunciation
adj., shi·er (shī'ər) or shy·er, shi·est (shī'ĭst) or shy·est.
1. Easily startled; timid.
2.
1. Drawing back from contact or familiarity with others; retiring or reserved.
2. Marked by reserve or diffidence: a shy glance.
3. Distrustful; wary: shy of strangers.
4. Not having paid an amount due, as one's ante in poker.
5. Short; lacking: Eleven is one shy of a dozen."
Source: www.answers.com
I thought that definition is pretty clear about shyness resembling a state of being distrustful and wary of strangers.
So you're saying the great leader, the prophet, was modest in his ways. Great and modest? Isn't greatness supposedly an extreme which allows no modesty, no compromises, nothing but straightforward greatness? So how can he be shy, yet at the same time achieve the greatest things for and with his anonymous people? I certainly hope you do see the oddness of such statements.
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 31, 2008, 03:31:18 PM ---People sayin' shyness is a 'Condition'..low self esteem, no confidence, when it ain't, always. It's more a personality trait...born with, what you experienced that made you that way.
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You don't believe in individual autonomy? You don't believe that your own thinking makes a difference in who you are and what you do - you're simply the product of biological and environmental influences? When you have feelings for a woman, that's because of your hormonal and biochemical state - not because of your actual will and your judgement? When you eat, it's because your body demands it, not because you're consciously aware of your body needing the food?
Even more, if such things were true, doesn't that more imply that shyness is a condition (something which just 'is') instead of a (consciously chosen) personality trait? Do personalities even exist according to the views you mentioned about being the product of an environment?
I seriously thought these were depraved states of psychology that were long gone. Eighty years ago, psychologists could get away with saying ridiculous stuff about humans not having a thinking faculty, but today? :grumpy:
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