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M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on February 10, 2008, 11:09:53 AM ---M Dogg never stated that they are ideologically similar.  He said, "Same extreme following, with the same extreme politics, just different sides of the extreme."  Extreme isn't the right word there, but he's saying it's a similar small following just on the opposite side of the political spectrum. 

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thanks... my point but worded way better... lol

Elevz:
What's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?

People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign! ::) :grumpy:

M Dogg™:

--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 11:28:48 AM ---What's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?

People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign! ::) :grumpy:

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Here is the thing. Obama is not a someone that is running as a pure liberal, though he has the most liberal voting record in the senate. He is able to communicate his message to the broad public, and sound like a moderate. This is important, as this allows his left wing politics to be seen as more mainstream, and allow for his agenda to get done. And this I agree with, since I am a liberal after all.

Javier:

--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on February 10, 2008, 11:28:48 AM ---What's the difference between having the same extreme politics, and being ideologically similar?

People like Ron Paul should be praised for actually looking to make a change, as opposed to the usual politics of the two big parties. You can be sure the change won't come from Obama; we should be glad there's actually some people out there willing to stick out their necks. Or, to put it in a familiar context: within a few years, you guys will feel either deceived by your candidates who promised change, or you'll stick your heads in the sand like "Real" American. So go ahead, and blame Ron Paul for being different. Yeah, fuck having people who actually express their true visions through democracy, instead of being a bunch of yes-men! Ron Paul should be banned from the campaign! ::) :grumpy:

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I praise Ron Paul for what he's done.  Props to him and his followers. 


The polices in the last 8 years have been heavily favored to the neo-conservatives, apart from the last two.  Obama can't bring an extreme change, but you can't deny that he'll have a strong impact in domestic polices.  Why?  Well he's going to be able to work with a Democratic Congress.  Bill Clinton didn't even have that, and that's why it was pretty hard for him to get things done.  He's also going to nominate 2-3 Supreme Court Justices.  We can't let a Republican take office and nominate even more conservatives to the Supreme Court, it will end up being extremely favored to the right.  Roe V Wade can be overturned if McCain gets elected.

jeromechickenbone:

--- Quote from: Mr. Javii on February 10, 2008, 11:09:53 AM ---M Dogg never stated that they are ideologically similar.  He said, "Same extreme following, with the same extreme politics, just different sides of the extreme."  Extreme isn't the right word there, but he's saying it's a similar small following just on the opposite side of the political spectrum. 

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Well he keeps saying that Ron Paul is Ralph Nader which is a stupid statement.  He's also saying that Paul has dropped out, that he's a Libertarian, and that he stole people's money with no intent of running for the presidency.  He also admits that nobody pays attention to him unless he mentions Ron Paul. 

Even if you draw that parallel between Paul and Nader, it's still weak as hell and I could list 100 reasons why they aren't even remotely close to similar.  Mdogg is just trying to smear Paul.

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