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Stating there will some day be a black revolution has...
Joe Bonanno:
^^you crack me up, how does it feel that your own family wants nothing to do with you because your pigheadedness compounded with wiggerdom has totally warped your perception of reality? im glad you know a little about history, but your own self loathing bleeds thru into everything you write. islam, africa, lucky dube, these aren't simply part of your vast knowledge and range of experiences, they are all you care about. how weak and unenlightened that is.
Elevz:
--- Quote from: Abd. Inf. presents... RIP Lucky Dube on February 18, 2008, 08:47:45 PM ---They also have a rich culture of music and art, which the white man has of course stolen and taken as his own. Everything from jazz, to hip-hop, to R&B, rock-n-roll, reggae, all of these are a product of something stolen from Africa.
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How are you going to steal a culture? How is to produce new music, whether it's R&B, jazz or rock'n'roll, an act of theft? I didn't know people in Africa had been listening to jazz for centuries before it became popular in the west. And even if they were, how is it an act of theft if jazz breaks through in the west? As if when something great's invented (whether practical or metaphysical), it should not be used by anyone who's not ascribed to that group? Do you even realize the nature of your thoughts? According to your own thoughts, what business do you have in a mosque? Why should you listen to Lucky Dube when you accuse "the white man" of robbing the black man from his culture? Why pray to the God of the middle east? Is your own hypocricy finally starting to dawn before you?
"The black man" didn't have his culture taken from him. Do you even realize culture is not something you're simply "born with," and that it's not a simple matter of black or white, in or out? Culture is an endless chain of interactions between people. It is not something solid and unchangable. It is not something that 'belongs' to certain people, and it is not something others must keep their hands off. If it were, you'd be the very first person to be blamed for breaking those rules.
Primo:
Thinking in racial terms is the most unintelligent thing you can do.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: So Glorious on February 19, 2008, 10:12:20 AM ---Thinking in racial terms is the most unintelligent thing you can do.
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I have to say that I agree to a great extent, but not completely. There are some things that are intrinsically racial in nature that can not be avoided. I think holding something against a group based strictly on their race is not intelligent, but that does not mean we should ignore race completely.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: My style = Bananas, And My name is Joseph on February 18, 2008, 05:13:38 PM ---
--- Quote from: Turf Hitta on February 18, 2008, 01:37:39 PM ---
--- Quote from: My style = Bananas, And My name is Joseph on February 17, 2008, 07:05:14 PM ---fallen to along the same line as "the south will rise again". I just don't see it happening and here's why. 1.Blacks have never prospered as a overall civilization throughout history, even before European nations got involved in the continent Africa. Even nowadays, if every cracker was killed, I don't see "them" being able to hold their own as a peaceful, productive society. Petty tribal warfare is part of African blood, and has translated through every generation and location blacks have migrated to. 2.Blaming constant poverty, violence, rape, substance abuse in heavily black areas solely on the white man is obviously not capturing the entire picture and is immature. There will never be a prosperous African nation like the ones European, North American, and Asian countries have provided for themselves. I think Africans are just not mentally able to build strong communities throughout the world as it is known currently.
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1. Ever heard of Egypt?
2. Its clear that you've either never taken a basic sociology 101 course or it just flew over your head. There are very direct and distinct causes for the bad situations and circumstances that many blacks deal with that can be traces directly to the actions of whites. I don't like using the terms "blacks" and "whites" in this sense because it is ahuge over generalization, but you should get the idea.
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1. Yes. Egypt did have very large beautiful rock pyramids which established a new way of living across the world. lol
2. You must still be in basic sociology 101 because you are not recognizing the bigger picture. A lot of misery of for Africans is at the hands of Europeans, but to solely rely on that connection as to why a race is practically destroyed is just lazy, and won't get you anywhere.
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1.Egypt was the first great civilization and in fact Egypt taught the some of the first great white civilizations how to run theirs. Therefore, yes, you could argue that Egypt in fact did establish new ways of living across the world. Egypt has arguably one of the richest recorded histories of all time.
2. No sir. I was actually at the top of my class in socio 101. I don't think anyone is relying SOLELY on white people as the cause for the state of many blacks in America, but the links to the whites in question as causing the greatest harm simply can not be denied. Thats akin to denying the holocaust. A race being "practically destroyed" as you put it is evidence of outside forces acting upon it. Generally speaking, an entire race is not going to destroy itself. Further there is heavy documentation that shows that whites have done the greatest harm. This is not to say that whites are inherently evil necessarily but downplaying the role that whites have played in this systematic destruction is fool hearted to say the least.
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