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Pick a past president to lead us
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on February 19, 2008, 12:44:21 AM ---Clinton was the puppet who waged war on Yugoslavia, after Yugoslavia stopped co-operating with the IMF.
According to Larry Nichols he was drug running vast amounts of cocaine from Arkansas
Plus, he authorised the bombing of a pharamaceutical factory in Sudan which of course was a "mistake".
In his last days of office he pardoned one of the most notorious drug barons in South America, out of the kindness of his heart I am sure.
However despite these little misdemeanours, no one is perfect right?
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I have a soft spot for Clinton. I think he's cool and he's much more interesting to listen to than the other elite politicians.
The Yugoslavia thing, he was probably pressured by others to do...... as for the drug running in Arkansas, well, all drugs should be legal anyways, so who cares, the government should not be running around telling people what they can and can't put in their own bodies.... The Sudan thing, yeah... I'm kind of pissed at him for that... but better one bomb then Bush's shock and awe campaign that will have America occupying Iraq for decades.... he pardoned a drug baron in South America, so what? America shouldn't be meddling in South America anyway, and government should have no say over what people can sell and distribute on their own free will, drugs should be legal.
Out of all the choices MDogg offered above, I'd take Clinton. He's got the most swagger out of any of 'um. Why people love Kennedy so much? Kennedy had America entrenched in the Vietnam war and he was very close to having America entrenched in Cuba as well... and on both accounts America was the tyrannical aggressor. Also, I don't like Kennedy's famous "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" quote... because I don't owe my country anything, America was actually founded with the purpose in mind that this was to be a country where people could be free to buy, sell, trade, and worship without interference from government. Duty to state is fascism.
virtuoso:
"Pressured" well yes in a way he was, he was bought and paid for, Yugoslavia could not be allowed to become a sovereign wealthy nation free of the clutches of the IMF. You can argue that all drugs should be legalised but drugs running for anyone else, gets you life in jail. So what he pardoned one of the most notorious drug barons in South America? I don't understand how that is none of their business, when he was being held in America. My point was of course once again Clinton no doubt saw a few more dollars in his account the following day. The man is scum, a very intelligent individual I will say but still vomit, I would choose hmm...Kennedy. Before he was killed, he threatened to turn the status quo of America upside down. Ultimately, had he not have been assasinated by the establishment, then I think he would have done exactly that. I heard the speech he made about wanting to bring peace to fellow man, not a poigoply, not a "peace" which means war, a genuine peace. Also his speech about secret cabal elite groups working against the interests of the american people and for that matter the free man, resonated a feeling, that he knew the dangerous course in which he was going down but he was prepared for the consequences.
Führer:
JFK, WITH ME AS HIS VICE PRESIDENT.
HEIL HITLER.
virtuoso:
You know what though, in a sense I am glad that NATO chose to declare war on the serbs, it is what woke me up that we do live in a matrix. On the one hand they warn us to be vigilant about the evils of terrorism and yet there is the KLA an organisation which has clearly always been recognised as a terrorist group by the state department because of their ties to the mujahadeen aka Al Queda, their bombings in serbia and links to the mafia. Yet as the campaign built up, suddenly they were known as the Kosovo Liberation army a sweet bunch of freedom fighters who were fighting to drive the serbs off their land. Even though that in itself is a fraud, it was the muslims which had driven out serbs, the area was rightfully serbian. It would be the equivalent of muslims attacking cities in Britain and declaring that because they were the majority in Birmingham, that it should be an autonomous zone. Now of course, I also recognised that ethnic cleansing was occuring on both sides, but of course that was not the way in which it was being portrayed. God bless these events, for awakening me to just how evil, the key players really are.
Führer:
--- Quote from: virtuoso on February 20, 2008, 01:00:31 AM ---
You know what though, in a sense I am glad that NATO chose to declare war on the serbs, it is what woke me up that we do live in a matrix. On the one hand they warn us to be vigilant about the evils of terrorism and yet there is the KLA an organisation which has clearly always been recognised as a terrorist group by the state department because of their ties to the mujahadeen aka Al Queda, their bombings in serbia and links to the mafia. Yet as the campaign built up, suddenly they were known as the Kosovo Liberation army a sweet bunch of freedom fighters who were fighting to drive the serbs off their land. Even though that in itself is a fraud, it was the muslims which had driven out serbs, the area was rightfully serbian. It would be the equivalent of muslims attacking cities in Britain and declaring that because they were the majority in Birmingham, that it should be an autonomous zone. Now of course, I also recognised that ethnic cleansing was occuring on both sides, but of course that was not the way in which it was being portrayed. God bless these events, for awakening me to just how evil, the key players really are.
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