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Survey: Americans switching faiths, dropping out
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: Facez on March 10, 2008, 09:51:41 AM ---
--- Quote from: Turf Hitta on March 07, 2008, 02:41:38 PM ---Like I said, if God punishes people for being the way he made them (susceptible to sin/unconvinced of the existence of God) then he is a vile and disgusting god. Thats like raising a child and telling him all through his childhood that he's worthless and will grow up to be a loser, providing an environment shitty enough to ensure it happens that way and then beating him constantly for it when he does in fact establish himself as a loser. Who was it that said something like "People were lookin for God but found religion instead"
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First of all God didn't just give us free will and that was it, God told Adam what to choose and then told him the consequences of choosing the wrong way so it wasn't like he was clueless and Adam (man) decided to choose Satan's way
You cant blame God for giving us free will, if we didn't have free will we couldn't be considered beings we would be objects cause every being has free will even angels have free will, God gives us free will and directs us in the way we should go not for Gods benefit but for ours
The truth is God gave us free will and then told us the right way to go and we disobeyed therefore you can blame god that is like a parent raising the child in the right way (teaching him/her what is right and wrong, providing for him/ her) and then the child ends up being a murderer or rapist how can you blame the parent,?
Turf if God made you do the right thing then it isn't free will he isn't going to mess with that, the truth is no one has to go to hell because he has provided a way out through the death of Christ
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You don't get it. By proxy of giving man free will, God gave man the opportunity to be tortured for all of eternity. If it was so important that his will be carried o ut, then why not just impose his will rather than torturing for all of eternity those who have been led astray? That is not the action of a loving god. It seems to me that you would do everything in your power to keep your loved ones away from something like that.
QuietTruth:
^ Why you so worried about if he's loving or not? Nigga, you sound like you praise Satan. :-\
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 10, 2008, 02:40:43 PM ---^ Why you so worried about if he's loving or not? Nigga, you sound like you praise Satan. :-\
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LOL where did I say anything about satan? And I'm absolutely not worried about whether he's loving or not. I'm just pointing out one of many contradictions and inconsistencies that make it difficult for logical people to accept this particular doctrine as absolute truth.
QuietTruth:
They always said punishment comes outta love. When your moms put you in the corner for stealing your brothers jolly ranchers, did she ever do that shit outta hate? Nahh, I think she was tryin' to teach you a lesson. Only did it out of love, word?
Word.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: QuietTruth on March 11, 2008, 04:23:20 PM ---They always said punishment comes outta love. When your moms put you in the corner for stealing your brothers jolly ranchers, did she ever do that shit outta hate? Nahh, I think she was tryin' to teach you a lesson. Only did it out of love, word?
Word.
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Your mother never intended to have you endure the most intense and brutal suffering until the end of time.
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