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The King:
^ I'm not going to argue with you, since obviously you are a very patriotic american. But thats a very ignorant statement. I don't know if your trying to argue that the US is the best country, however, the US doesn't even have the highest standard of living.

Why does the US have the best government? The US health care system sucks compared to the rest of the modernized world. The US education system sucks. The US trade policy sucks. The US foreign policy sucks. The only thing the US government has given you is the highest GDP. With a country moving into a recession, and poor health and education systems, how can you honestly say the US government is SUPERIOR to governments like Germany, Canada and England? Give me a break american kid.

The point I was trying to argue was that the Canadian electoral system is better. Just think, you wouldn't have had to put up with Bush for so long. Patriotism and ignorance go hand in hand when it comes to most americans.


--- Quote ---The U.S. government is far superior to any government in the world
--- End quote ---

Ignorance at its best. What "superior" benefits do Americans receive that modern countries don't? None. In fact many countries far surpass the US in health care, education and soon Economy (China). The US government sucks. And you living their, should know that.

Tay:
I saw a segment (I think it was on CNN) a couple days ago, and one of the guys that was in the discussion was a Super Delegate for Texas. They were breaking down the race and all that, and right before they closed it out, he had to boost himself. He said something to the point of "For everyone asking why we deserve to be the ones to ultimately pick the candidates, we are the ones who are out there campaigning for our party in the summer during 110 degree heat, blah, blah, blah." I figured I would share that, and also I agree that it is annoying that different states have different methods of choosing and dividing their districts, etc.

Trauma-san:
To the canuck:
 
You missed my point on the election.  You don't have a free election.  You have a choice between 4 people that the government tells you to vote for.  In America, anybody can run.

What good does it do for us to every two years replace somebody we elected ourselves, with somebody the government tells us we can elect?  That's rediculous.  So, let me get this straight.  When you get pissed at your current president, whom the government allowed you to choose out of 4 people, you're allowed to choose the guy that didn't win 2 years ago?  How is that a good thing?  That's a rediculous thing.  That's not freedom.  That's the illusion of freedom.

You can say whatever you want, but the truth is, a poor kid from Arkansas can work hard, and one day become president of the United States.  Then almost get impeached, then his wife can almost become president as well.  Rags to riches, right there in Bill Clinton... and you can say what you want, but the motherfucker didn't have shit when he was born and now he has everything.  THAT, is freedom. 

Trauma-san:
Oh, and you said that canada had better health care.  Yawn. 

In America, if I get sick, I drive a mile and go see a doctor.  There's one waiting there right now to see me.  If I need an X-ray, he wheels me into another room, and I get an X-ray.  Tonight.  Right now.  If I need an operation, he wheels me into another room, and I get an operation.  If it's something that can wait, he gets me a room, I sleep, and then I wake up at 8a.m. and have the operation he was kind enough to schedule for me.  I pay 23% taxes, and my insurance company pays almost all of the bill.   If I make less than a certain amount, I don't pay any taxes, and the government pays the entire bill.

BTW, if I don't have insurance, then what happens?  The same thing, except the hospital pays for it. 

M Dogg™:
As messed up as our system seems, we have the longest running successful democracy. For centuries we have had a system that gives even the most advance political science professors problems, but at the end of the day the rest of the world wishes they had a system as proven as ours. We have problems, as I wish we'd have more parties involved, but at the same time the two party system has given us some great leaders. For better or for worst, our system allows for the president to gain more power than what the consititution was written for. But at the end of the day, our system is copied, and tried by may countries, and this election is an example of why our system is so great. We elect our leaders in a long drawn out way, that we weigh in, and read their issues, and watch their speeches, and after all that time, in Nov. we go to the polls and decide on who we think will lead our nation. There is reports that other people from other democracies follow our election this year, and wish that their system allowed for as much drama as ours... lol. It's not perfect, but it works, and it has worked longer than any other democracy in the world.

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