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Barack Obama on Hip-Hop... a great interview

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Narrator:
Yeah, he got swag alright.  Then again, even my grandparents know who Jay-Z and Kanye are.


--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?

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Allah does.

Sikotic™:

--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?

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Seriously, I'm more interested in whether he wears boxers or briefs.

virtuoso:

Hilary looks like a truly evil witch, McCain acts like a mental patient..compared to those 2 Obama looks positively glowing.

Elevz:

--- Quote from: Real American on February 29, 2008, 03:05:07 PM ---Who gives a fuck what kind of music he listens to?
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With the race for the presidency practically being all about personality instead of about political positions, what else could tell you more about the personality behind the face?

However, am I the only one who thinks Barack really exposed himself with this one? He listens to gangstarappers and then says he doesn't like the message about mistreating women, glorifying wealth and preaching violence. Umm... How much of a hypocrit can you be? I really fail to see the swag in that one. That's chameleon behavior. That's slickness. That's failing to pass judgement and act accordingly. Is that really the guy you're hoping to become the most important man in the world for the next 8 years?

Kill:

--- Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 02, 2008, 01:31:11 PM ---However, am I the only one who thinks Barack really exposed himself with this one? He listens to gangstarappers and then says he doesn't like the message about mistreating women, glorifying wealth and preaching violence. Umm... How much of a hypocrit can you be? I really fail to see the swag in that one. That's chameleon behavior. That's slickness. That's failing to pass judgement and act accordingly. Is that really the guy you're hoping to become the most important man in the world for the next 8 years?

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He said he listens to these guys, but that doesn't mean he'll necessarily have to agree with everything. I have listened to gangsta rap a lot and I still do at times and I never once agreed with the mysoginism and the glorification of violence prevalent in that genre. That is because there were/are other things to like the music for; it can get too much and there are songs that actually manage to get on my nerves. It sure is slightly ambivalent, but I wouldn't label it "hypocritical"; I got a lot of fucking respect for Jigga for example, cause he made 3 great albums, a lot of great  songs and he's an impressive example of a black entrepreneur who started from scratch and has built up something huge. Still, he's done shit songs too and his over-the-top materialism can be annoying. I think generally, you'll just have to draw the line for yourself and decide when things go too far in terms of stuff you disagree with and how much you will take as long as there is a side you like about it too. In Obama's case, it seems to me that he's made a valid point in both paying respect to the positive sides of this music and critisizing the negative sides. The subject is too complex to just "pass judgement" in my opinion, and that's why I agree with him.

I'm not trying to attack you in any way, but I'm curious: Assuming that you're not the type to support mysoginism, do you listen to Biggie? Snoop? Dre? If you think violence should be strictly condemned, do you listen to Pac? Eminem? Big L?

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