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White people got a superiority complex....
ThaPrince:
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--- Quote from: Jobology (take out a pad & pencil) on March 02, 2008, 03:48:29 PM ---okay lets try this again........ what does tribal beefs have to do with what the white race subjects the Black race to!??!?!
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Nothing. That wasn't the nature of the argument. The argument was only there to show you how stupid racism and collective guilt or condemnation is. That, no more, and no less. You shouldn't condemn anyone for something he wasn't personally involved in or responsible for. Don't condemn me for what some crackers in America did to their slaves. I won't condemn you for the amoral actions of some tribal Africans.
--- Quote from: Jobology (take out a pad & pencil) on March 02, 2008, 03:48:29 PM ---your probably is you trying to argue back by trying to use that example of the African tribe. But you couldnt even BLAME THEM IF YOU WANTED TO!!!!!!!! THEY DIDNT DO NOTHING TO THE WHITE RACE!!!!!!!!!!! cant you see that like what the fuck you blind nigga!!!
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Unlike yourself, I am not a nigga. Neither am I blaming anyone for anyone except for their responsibility over their actions. That's why I am blaming you for your racism and your hypocritical contradictions. I do condemn you for doing exactly what I denounced in the first paragraph of this post.
--- Quote from: Jobology (take out a pad & pencil) on March 02, 2008, 03:48:29 PM ---WHITE(SUBJECT BLACKS TO WHOLE BUNCH OF BULLSHIT) you say eye cant blame and entire race for that your example AFRICAN TRIBES BEEFING WITH EACHOTHER ( where is the part where they did anything to the white race) SO YOU DONT HAVE ANYONE TO BLAME ANYTHING ON!!!!!!!
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I am a human being, and a fairly moral one at that. I do have a thinking mind, and that enables me to judge. I will denounce cultures which glorify rape. I will denounce any kind of racism. I will preach the things I deem correct, and go against the things I find unjust. I don't blank out my judgement for nobody or nothing.
I will however try to understand the motives behind the behavior of people I differ with. Although I strongly denounce rape, I can understand how young boys who are born within a tribe with a culture which preaches rape will act accordingly. I understand them, yet I denounce the behavior. The same thing goes for the white racists of the past. The same thing goes for you, the little black nationalist with a heart filled with hatred. Your behavior is understandable, but that does not at all mean I'll support it in any way. In fact, you need to get out of that circle of negativism and turn it into something good, because you're being one bitter stubborn asshole.
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that's some real talk
virtuoso:
Thanks man ;D see the thing is this, some of my cousins are what I would describe as racist or at least having racist views but I am not sure if I would describe them as hateful. There is a big difference in my opinion I have never got caught up in these generalised snipings because I would like to think I have always been more thoughtful about such issues and surveyed the entire picture instead of just the inner circle from which I am standing in. Whereas some of them, are anything but wealthy and look for a scapegoat which they can use to blame on their current position. Or, it's simply a case of some people fearing what they don't understand and therefore adopting an untrusting unfriendly attitude. Once you have been around a certain group of people all your life, you come to identify who you are based around that peer group. If a black guy has just been hanging around with other blacks and is then suddenly thrown into a melting pot of other races, it takes them to time to re0adapt into a new environment just as it as does with white people perhaps with some people this is a more difficult transition. To illustrate the point I was making about fear is the fact that I recently found something out about the widespread use of the word paki, the word itself means nothing really just the abbreviated word for pakistani but it has does have everything to do with the memories which it evokes and it stems back to when working class white groups would go around "paki bashing". I think that is one of the bigger issues amongst a plethora of other issues, namely that they were worried that the asians would come in and take their jobs. This is of course is a genuine concern for many but it's just indicative of the way in which our society has been moulded we are all are thrown a few crumbs and like pigeons we all race and in doing so, collide and fight to get to the scraps first. I should point out that I am not trying to justify this violence to me it's abhorrent and repulsive.I couldn't say for sure, it's certainly plausible that white people as a whole are some of the most self superior but I just wonder if this has been born out of a cocooned ignorance.
I think you detailing your experiences of how white people you have known have suddenly become more racist as they have got older, it's actually not too surprising because unfortunately for some at least, they tend to become more close minded do not exercise their brain and are thus susceptible to some very simplistic propaganda which then evolves them into a dumb asshole. In fact, very much like the individual on here who is spouting racist crap himself lol. I couldn't agree more that you should be proud to be who you are, no matter what your race and don't get me wrong, there are white racist pieces of shit no doubt. I have been subjected to hateful crap towards blacks and jews since I was almost knee high by some quarters but ultimately, it's not in the interests of the real elite to have any form of unity whether it's legitimacy in white couples or black couples. conflicts between men and women, blacks and asians, asians and whites, whites and blacks, asians and chinese etc. The list of internal conflict is always going to be there but it's up to all of as a collective to not fall into these bear traps. I don't want to belittle all of these racial slurs but to me the best of conquering them is to think of them as childish name calling and to think of those doing as so as morons.
P.S It was never about being touchy and all to do with literally calling all white people inherently evil that and of course the Khalid Sheikh Mohammed tapes. I guess the former I can just ignore but I can't ignore it when the guy who started off this thread says those who get angry about all white people being called devils obviously has a superiority complex lol.
herpes:
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--- Quote from: Tommy Fits >>> cali on February 29, 2008, 11:27:31 PM ---this thread wont go over well considering the fact that most people here are white. But you are 100% right. But not alll white people are the devil. There are a few that don't see race they see it as a person by person case.
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Thank you. Much props and respect!
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The problem is you view too many white people as evil when there are a lot more good white people out there then you realize. You yourself generalize too much.
Nat Turner-reincarnated:
--- Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on March 02, 2008, 05:09:23 PM ---aight its time for another pure breed proud good lookin black face to enter this thread,haha.
For real though i want to speak on what quiet truth said and about classes, i aint gon lie and say class has nothing to do with racism because it most definately does. However i disagree when quiettruth comes out and says that he hates all rich people because they are all racist/judgemental or whatever. Let me speak some truth, most people who are racist are people who are most likely a family doing well...middle class who consider themselves high class...where they do not want to be linked with people from poor places and which often leads to places where minorities live. Also they're the people who hang out with a whole group of white kids and like they all just sit there dissing black people/brown cats and shit all day like..."hey i hate niggaz...we should blow up anyone walking in the middle east"...racist shit like that....also if someone in a group like that is down with black people...in regards what happened in the past to black people or may not be kool with black cats but feel as if what happened was fucked up and not right and can understand why alot of people today would be pissed at white people...since alot of black people are brought up being told stories of how your mommas mom or grandparents were kille dby white cats or whatever...its got to have an effect on both your upbringing and the opinions of parents....i mean i hear white people say...it happened a long time ago, get over it...if someone killed your mom 20 years back or yesterday...it wouldnt matter, aint no getting over shit like that...okay but now im gettin way off track, but what im trying to say is that in places where you only see a whole group of white people chilling together tryna act as if they're greater than people of other races...if anyone from that group is kool with black people....they get known as "white sympthasizers"...i mean seriously, to any black cat in here, have y'all ever heard of a white sympathiser before??....that shit baffles me beyond belief...See within the black ranks that i know, if someone is down with whites blacks brown and everything else, all religions and tries to understand different people whilst being proud of THEMSELVES...they're known as good nigga with a good heart...
Also call me crazy but i think education has alot to do with racism, i think someone who is well brought up and has a good education will probably be less likely to be racist than someone who was bought up being told all blacks are niggers and are only good for cleaning the white mans shoes or whatever. But i know you see middle class white cats gettin mad everytime a brother gets a girl whether in a club or is dating one who they wanted but instead prefer the black cat...either thats gon cause problems the white dudes most likely gon start or y'all gon get nuff looks by everyone who see a pretty lookin white girl with a black cat...
as for the class thing...only upper class being are those having a superiority complex, imo thats alot of bullshit because i know white cats who aint shit hate niggas and anyone who aint down with bombing iraq and shit and my muslim homies and indian homies get nuff hate off them about being "pakis" or "terrorists" whilst blacks be getting called "niggers and monkeyes" and shit like that...because you already know those greasy muthafuckers been told nuff racist bullshit by there parents who aint shit...these cats are from the slums mang...
Also alot of these lowtime racist crews and shit be just minor kids and families from lowerclass hoods just forming and bangin there set with major race issues....
So if y'all tryna tell me that white cats from the top only got superiority complex, i disagree....i think a nigga at the top be dissing niggaz lower than him too...but you also got some good niggaz too, same with whites and any other race...
people who have lighter skin think they're better than those with dark im many cases
I do agree that white people are generally the most racist people in the world from my own experiences and have the most trouble with accepting equality and just letting everyone live without always looking for something new to complain about...if it aint russia, its china, if it aint china, its muslims, if it aint muslims, its eastern europeans, if it aint them, its about whos joining the EU because of religious backgrounds...if it aint that, its about keeping hold of some national pride like we niggas tryna take over the country or someshit...
Now that was not meant as a diss to white people because i generally have no problem with white people....because there are many cats who are racist out there who aint white..though anyone tryna tell me it aint a white mans world is living in a drea world imo...I mean nas just needs to say something minor on outbound and all the whites in here jump in like he shot there mother in the neck and when a track of nas or his album drops, aint nobody speaking on it...dang i wouldnt be suprised if bubba sparxxx has mo exposure on this board in the past
Also i have and have had many white friends...not as many as i get older and older but the few i trust im still chillin with...but in the past white are kool. with you..hella kool infact aslong as you the sidekick...once the bitches know you the better lookin/kooler/mo intelligent one...those cats hate it, they start spreading lies/racist shit about you...thats why i keep a low profile of white people who i consider friends...because i dont know....thats a little too general
Also if this thread makes me sound like im some bitter kid, that aint true, im 23 yrs old, im happy im intelligent, i dont need the urge to prove it by writing up big texts on here with perfect punctuation, im a content cat who knows i got mad potential and i can intillect with an old educated white cat from europe or a low down brother or whatever, it aint a problem.
So to anyone with a superiority complex thinking they better than me, white black or whatever, FUCK U...
Also truthfully y'all got to accept there are good white cats out there who dont treat blacks cats like..."my black homie"...instead of calling you by your name...that may be hard to find these days....i dont know why but i feel as cats get older these days, they get more racist, peoples hearts get mo evil...but thats just my opinion...
I dont really know if i contradicted myself a few times in this thread or if some of it later will come across as bullshit but im just typing at the top of my head just dropping some thoughts, maybe later when i think of it i'll take it back but im saying...
as for my own opinions on wheter all whites have a superiority complex, hell naw, i think you have general people who are racist and people who are not...thats why i never hate on someone because of there religioin...if someone wants to chill and have a ball with me, they can be black white brown, muslim, christian, jew or non believeer and still have a ball...you aint gotta be a muslim who drinks to get down with me, i respect someone more if they're following there religion right and still a kool person to chill with...
its like this cat i know, i aint sure if he a pure blood or mixed race nigga but he chills with alot of white cats and be dissing blacks all the time to them and they kool with him...anyone else thinking WHAT THE FUCK?!?!....he be dissing blacks when he is himself!!....and his white friends like him for that...the nigga who wishes he was white...
y'all should be proud of whatever colour you are and just try and improve yourself as a perspm, dont worry about other people...because truthfully job, they gon be nuff racist cats out there but there will be some aight ones too...
as for sikotic, thats a true nigga right there, he down with everyone and is just playin in this thread job, y'all aint gotta attack him for no reason.
pz muthafuckers. hope i didnt offend y'all in here because i know alot of white cats are touchy about there race on this board but i know virtuouso in all is a reeal cool cat and elevz seems aight from what i know too...dont really know s7even that well but he never caused me problems so i cannot speak bad about anyone in this thread, black white or brown, yellow, pink or whatever
pz
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eye can see where you coming from
Sofa_King_Awesome:
I tend to find middle class whites to be worse than the upper class. For instance, I worked with a white dude who was into hip hop and reggae, and even had a couple of so called black friends. This dude was a bigot for real. We discussed his past and it stemmed from going to a mainly all black public school district, in which we (blacks) run the school. Once he entered high school, the shit turned into blacks robbing white boys for their weed and what not. So dude pretty much distanced himself from that crowd and turned hippy.
So you would think this white cat is a liberal type dude, but no, this dude taught me new racial slurs for various ethnic groups. He mentioned how some of his upper class white buddies would get mad at him when he said racial slurs jokingly. And the truth was like he mentioned, these rich fuckers never stepped foot in the hood, never been beat up by a brother, or robbed by a brother, like he was. So his point was valid, and SOME upper class fuckers tend to be more gullible in certain situations.
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