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Obama/Farakhan controversy reveals media's agneda against blacks
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: 7even on March 03, 2008, 02:24:43 PM ---Lol homie you are too emotional to lead a rational discussion. Give it a couple days rest and then we can talk, maybe. As of right now it does not seem to be possible. It is not possible to justify slavery, and affirmative action does not make up for it, just to clarify that one. LOL
Again, they say that technically everybody comes from Africa, so what does make "your" African roots so special? There's black people outside of Africa in case you don't know. When I talk about real roots I talk about bloodline that doesn't got back for too long. Don't you see a difference between having a father from Kenya and being a regular black American?
None of you guys answered this one so far: How come Obama is having a serious shot at the presidency if white people are the devil?
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LOL get the fuck outta here. I'm not emotional at all. And try to stick to one stance. It takes the fun out of picking your reasoning apart when you change positions like that. And who is this "they" that says everybody came from Africa? Yes I see the difference of having a parent directly from Africa, but that is not to say that blacks here have only "pseudo" African roots. Every black person has direct African roots. They may not practice traditional African culture, but I'll let you figure out why that is.
7even:
I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: 7even on March 03, 2008, 04:02:36 PM ---I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.
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OK, so you weren't basically saying whites and blacks are even for slavery since "yall" gave blacks Affirmative Action? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but thats the impression I got.
7even:
--- Quote from: Turf Hitta on March 03, 2008, 04:18:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on March 03, 2008, 04:02:36 PM ---I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.
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OK, so you weren't basically saying whites and blacks are even for slavery since "yall" gave blacks Affirmative Action? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but thats the impression I got.
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Nah, that would be outrageous. That's like offering a job to somebody after raping his daughter and thinking it will be all gravy then.
My point with affirmative action was that the white man is reaching out to you guys, voting for Obama and everything, and that it's time to stop all that hate and whining because of the past. I just doesn't help neither one of us. There is nothing to "get even" to. What's done is done. Would it make sense to lynch random whites now just to get even? That's retarded. People have to move on without all that race stuff in the back of their heads.
Turf Hitta:
--- Quote from: 7even on March 03, 2008, 04:52:13 PM ---
--- Quote from: Turf Hitta on March 03, 2008, 04:18:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: 7even on March 03, 2008, 04:02:36 PM ---I haven't changed any stance. It's you misinterpreting stuff in order to find something to pick on - I'll let you figure out why that is.
--- End quote ---
OK, so you weren't basically saying whites and blacks are even for slavery since "yall" gave blacks Affirmative Action? I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but thats the impression I got.
--- End quote ---
Nah, that would be outrageous. That's like offering a job to somebody after raping his daughter and thinking it will be all gravy then.
My point with affirmative action was that the white man is reaching out to you guys, voting for Obama and everything, and that it's time to stop all that hate and whining because of the past. I just doesn't help neither one of us. There is nothing to "get even" to. What's done is done. Would it make sense to lynch random whites now just to get even? That's retarded. People have to move on without all that race stuff in the back of their heads.
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Hmm... I think affirmative action was more of a PR move than anything, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't make much of a difference. It serves to make "the man" look like he cares above all else.
There are no simple solutions or quick fixes to the historical obstacles facing black communities. Simply "forgetting the past" is not going to solve anything. The culture of slavery and the century or so that followed is probably the greatest of all causes that bred the culture of ignorance, poverty and the general sense of hopelessness that has permeated the black community since the days of slavery. Educate yourself and make something positive of yourself and you are an uncle tom or a "house nigger." Can you see how certain things like making it illegal (as far as the plantations are concerned) for blacks to read or face mutilation or death can make it the "thing to do" to be uneducated? Keep in mind that when the slave owners did these things, they often did them in front of the rest of the slaves to serve as an example to the others of what will happen if you try to educate yourself. That sends an unimaginably powerful message to the people. Is it any wonder then, that the so called "black" thing to do is usually the ignorant thing to do?
See, my point is, its not good enough to say "whats done is done, now lets move on." Indeed, what's done IS in fact done. Now the question is, what is going to be done to rectify it and how much longer of a wait is it going to be? Its not going to get any easier the more time passes. The damage is done and has permeated generation after generation because these are the lessons that get handed down either by word of mouth or by observation of the children. Something needs to be done to correct this, and I'm sorry, but affirmative action simply isn't cutting it, and its not like its ONLY for black descendants of slaves.
I argued in an essay for some class I had a few semesters ago that what would help, would be to offer a free college education to descendants of slaves for a period of generations equal to that of slavery. This would serve to alleviate the mentality of ignorance and breed a new black community that values education and affluence. Maybe not perfect, but I'm sure a lot of people would take that over 40 acres and a fuckin mule (which was promised and to this day still not delivered). Other ethnicities have suffered lesser atrocities and have had steps taken to correct them by the US government (internment camps, anyone?). Why should blacks not receive anything after enduring the most diabolical injustice in American history, which as I have noted, reaches far beyond the actual slavery that took places for centuries?
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