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What your missing in your life. . .
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 09, 2008, 11:52:48 PM ---
Yeah, a college education is useful because you earn a degree that will help you land a job. Have you attended, or are you attending college right now? I honestly don't think you can equate a college education to popping open an encyclopedia. In my opinion there's more to a formal education than simply obtaining information.
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Fuck school (*bumps Dead Prez "They Schools")
I try to stay away from school as much as possible. Every once in a while I forget how bad it really is, and go back... but I am quickly reminded.
I have a few certificates from school. I have a CDL (Commercial Drivers Liscence). I have a CNA (Certified Nurse Assistant) and a CMT (Certified Medication Technician). I also have a lot of useless credit hours that have amounted to nothing. I've wasted time, wasted money, passed a few here, flunked a few there... and it was all straight up BULLSHIT! And the last time I even liked the social atmosphere of school was jr. high.
And anything I learned in school I could of learned much better outside of school. Coming out of high school I didn't even know what a passport was... I only started learning when I got out of high school (public schools are nothing more than government schools by the way) and started making my own moves.
Joe Bonanno:
--- Quote from: Abd. Inf. presents... RIP Lucky Dube on March 10, 2008, 12:34:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 09, 2008, 11:52:48 PM ---
Yeah, a college education is useful because you earn a degree that will help you land a job. Have you attended, or are you attending college right now? I honestly don't think you can equate a college education to popping open an encyclopedia. In my opinion there's more to a formal education than simply obtaining information.
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Fuck school (*bumps Dead Prez "They Schools")
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youre white bryan that song has nothing to do with you.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: Larry Spliffburn on March 10, 2008, 12:38:13 AM ---
youre white bryan that song has nothing to do with you.
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Actually it does. That song sounded very empowering to me when I first heard it. It says, "In a 4 year sentence, mad niggaz never finish, but that doesn't mean I couldn't be a doctor or dentist". I first heard that song my senior year of highschool, spring 2000, and I remember that line got me thinking about how anything a doctor or dentist learns in school you could actually learn outside of school. I realized how fooled people are to think knowledge is contained in a classroom.
Check this, the whole world is a classroom, and God is our teacher.
J @ M @ L:
--- Quote from: Abd. Inf. presents... RIP Lucky Dube on March 10, 2008, 12:34:44 AM ---
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 09, 2008, 11:52:48 PM ---
Yeah, a college education is useful because you earn a degree that will help you land a job. Have you attended, or are you attending college right now? I honestly don't think you can equate a college education to popping open an encyclopedia. In my opinion there's more to a formal education than simply obtaining information.
--- End quote ---
Fuck school (*bumps Dead Prez "They Schools")
I try to stay away from school as much as possible. Every once in a while I forget how bad it really is, and go back... but I am quickly reminded.
I have a few certificates from school. I have a CDL (Commercial Drivers Liscence). I have a CNA (Certified Nurse Assistant) and a CMT (Certified Medication Technician). I also have a lot of useless credit hours that have amounted to nothing. I've wasted time, wasted money, passed a few here, flunked a few there... and it was all straight up BULLSHIT! And the last time I even liked the social atmosphere of school was jr. high.
And anything I learned in school I could of learned much better outside of school. Coming out of high school I didn't even know what a passport was... I only started learning when I got out of high school (public schools are nothing more than government schools by the way) and started making my own moves.
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Maybe in your case it was a waste of time and money. You not knowing what a passport was doesn't have anything to do with school... it just means you were a sheltered dumbass... I'm sorry but it's true... I knew what a passport was in elementary. Where have "your own moves" taken you?
Also maybe your hate for school stems from your dislike of the "social atmosphere"... maybe the fact that you weren't liked very much and didn't have many friends prevented you from appreciating the education itself.
TraceOneInfinite:
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 10, 2008, 12:54:07 AM ---
Maybe in your case it was a waste of time and money. You not knowing what a passport was doesn't have anything to do with school... it just means you were a sheltered dumbass... I'm sorry but it's true... I knew what a passport was in elementary.
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Part of a good education involves learning about the outside world, which I knew nothing about upon graduating highschool. So not knowing what a passport was is relevant to the discussion. And of course you knew what a passport was, you are an immigrant from Afghanistan. Your background and mine are totally different. Most immigrants to the West worship school, it's one of the big reasons they immigrate in the first place.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 10, 2008, 12:54:07 AM ---
Where have "your own moves" taken you?
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My own moves have taken me all over the world. I've spent significant time in Saudi Arabia (Mekkah, Medina, Jeddah) in Oman, the Emirates, Africa (Senegal and Gambia). And also been briefly to Mexico, Bahamas and Europe.
I've learned everything outside of school. A book by William Upski Wimsatt really changed my life. He's a hip-hop activist and he writes about self-education over public education, and how we can get much more out of creating our own curriculum for ourselves.
When I was 17, the only thing you could get me to read outside of school was hip-hop magazines and the sports page. But my first year after graduating, I read dozens of books on my own, and in the beginning, I had to look in the dictionary every few sentences (when I read "Soul On Ice" for example).
I started practicing vegetarianism, flirted with Buddhism, eventually ended up with Islam.
I learned how to read and write Arabic, can read and understand 75% of the Quran in it's originally language of Arabic without English translation, know basic Arabic conversation.
I've given lectures in front of 100's of people at mosque's inside of America and also while I was in Africa. (In high school I never gave one lecture to anybody about anything, and in the Speech class in college I gave just 3 speaches which was a joke because that's hardly enough for anybody to break their fear of public speaking)
I've lead youth sports groups and dawah projects inside the Islamic community. I've taught classes on Turkish/Ottoman history, along with history of the Kalifah, Spanish Islamic era, etc.
I didn't even know the difference between what right wing and liberal meant when I graduated high school. Since graduating I've studied Libertarian politics in depth, Islamic sharia, and global economics and it's relationship to politics.
Also, of course, I've studied in depth African-Islamic history from Africa to America and so on, and all the various black nationalist history that has existed in America.
Studied history of the Indian subcontinent, basically world history, religious history... so many things man, the point is, whatever I did I did outside of school.
--- Quote from: J @ M @ L on March 10, 2008, 12:54:07 AM ---
Also maybe your hate for school stems from your dislike of the "social atmosphere"... maybe the fact that you weren't liked very much and didn't have many friends prevented you from appreciating the education itself.
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This is always funny to me. How would any of you know if I wasn't "liked very much" in school? Your understanding is so limited that if I say I hated high school then you automatically assume I must not have been well liked. That's ridiculous. But people say it to each other all the time at the forum online.
I was actually very well liked in school. I had plenty of girlfriends, played on the high school basketball team, went to all the parties, got high, got drunk, got laid, and everything else people use to measure popularity in school. But none of it meant shit to me.
When I first started hanging out and having girlfriends in my early teens (13 and 14) in jr. high, it was really fun and I really loved it, and the close friends and girlfriends I had in those early years are still special to me in my heart to this day. 94-96 hold some of my sweetest memories. Those were real genuine times.
But by the time high school came around, people had changed, everyone became fake; and none of it seemed real to me. It was all old a played out. But I didn't know what else to do, so I just went along with it, and prayed that it would all end soon. I even wanted to kill myself more than anything. But instead, I just waited for high school to end, so I could move on with my life and go in a totally different direction on my own.
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