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Pastor Wright didn't say anything wrong, I just saw the video....

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TraceOneInfinite:

--- Quote from: Trauma-san on March 18, 2008, 06:28:56 AM ---^ that's no church I've been in. 

He also said that we were terrorists in World War II when we bombed Japan.  You know, the same world war II that was marching Nazism across the world, bombed Pearl Harbor when we weren't in the war, and declared War on the United States.  The same World War II that millions of blacks, whites, hispanics, and asians died in.  The same world war II that blacks and whites laid down and died beside each other on the Beaches of Normandy.  The same world war II that Hitler was in, after and while attempting to destroy an entire race of people. 

Let me tell you the most shamefull thing about this shit.  Barack for 1 claimed that he didn't know that his pastor stood for this shit.  Barack Obama is a fucking liar.  He's been to this church for 20 years.  He had the man marry him and his wife.  He had the man baptise his children.  When he annoucned his candidacy, they didn't let the pastor speak at the ceremony because they KNEW he talked shit like this.  Barack Obama has a WHITE mother.  His children are part white.  HE'S part white.  He lets this guy do all this race baiting shit right in front of his children, and he goes to a church that his own Mother wouldn't be comfortable going to. 

Then, after calling this man his spiritual advisor and all this shit, he fired him Friday.  So which is it, guys?  Is Obama so fucking stupid that he just found out Friday what this man says in his sermons?  Or the more likely answer, was he down with the sermons, and just fired the guy for political ambition?  EITHER FUCKING WAY, Barack Obama is a fucking scumbag. 

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lol... Your one of those American's that thinks that history started on Sept. 11th, or that WW2 started when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

America wasn't just sitting idle, minding it's own business when Pearl Harbor occurred.  It was their entry into WW1 that broke the stalemate and gave overwhelming power to the Allies who then laid too great a burden on Germany, thus making WW2 inevitable. 

And America's sanctions on and embargo's on Japan were strangle holding them economically leaving them no choice but to attack America.  And why did America put a steel embargo on Japan?  Because Japan was attempting to occupy some of it's neighboring countries and America had to remind Japan that only the white man is allowed to make imperialist moves towards colonialism (as America had done in WW1).

Last point... Japan had already offered to surrender to America, and it was not necassary for them to drop the atomic bomb.

Australian Bastard:
'terrorism' is all relative.

Machiavelli:

--- Quote from: Abd. Inf. presents... RIP Lucky Dube on March 18, 2008, 12:56:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: Trauma-san on March 18, 2008, 06:28:56 AM ---^ that's no church I've been in. 

He also said that we were terrorists in World War II when we bombed Japan.  You know, the same world war II that was marching Nazism across the world, bombed Pearl Harbor when we weren't in the war, and declared War on the United States.  The same World War II that millions of blacks, whites, hispanics, and asians died in.  The same world war II that blacks and whites laid down and died beside each other on the Beaches of Normandy.  The same world war II that Hitler was in, after and while attempting to destroy an entire race of people. 

Let me tell you the most shamefull thing about this shit.  Barack for 1 claimed that he didn't know that his pastor stood for this shit.  Barack Obama is a fucking liar.  He's been to this church for 20 years.  He had the man marry him and his wife.  He had the man baptise his children.  When he annoucned his candidacy, they didn't let the pastor speak at the ceremony because they KNEW he talked shit like this.  Barack Obama has a WHITE mother.  His children are part white.  HE'S part white.  He lets this guy do all this race baiting shit right in front of his children, and he goes to a church that his own Mother wouldn't be comfortable going to. 

Then, after calling this man his spiritual advisor and all this shit, he fired him Friday.  So which is it, guys?  Is Obama so fucking stupid that he just found out Friday what this man says in his sermons?  Or the more likely answer, was he down with the sermons, and just fired the guy for political ambition?  EITHER FUCKING WAY, Barack Obama is a fucking scumbag. 

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lol... Your one of those American's that thinks that history started on Sept. 11th, or that WW2 started when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

America wasn't just sitting idle, minding it's own business when Pearl Harbor occurred.  It was their entry into WW1 that broke the stalemate and gave overwhelming power to the Allies who then laid too great a burden on Germany, thus making WW2 inevitable. 

And America's sanctions on and embargo's on Japan were strangle holding them economically leaving them no choice but to attack America.  And why did America put a steel embargo on Japan?  Because Japan was attempting to occupy some of it's neighboring countries and America had to remind Japan that only the white man is allowed to make imperialist moves towards colonialism (as America had done in WW1).

Last point... Japan had already offered to surrender to America, and it was not necassary for them to drop the atomic bomb.

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exactally....

but you cant really compare what this pastor was saying to ron paul. Wright was making rude comments not just critizing american policy.

The problem is he's a pastor at church. Churches aren't allowed to make political comments or such, or else the government will go after them since for tax reasons.

Turf Hitta:
^^^Churches can't comment on politics? Never heard of that. If thats the case then they shouldnt be allowed to comment on religion in politics

Machiavelli:

--- Quote from: Turf Hitta on March 18, 2008, 10:16:51 PM ---^^^Churches can't comment on politics? Never heard of that. If thats the case then they shouldnt be allowed to comment on religion in politics

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churches are tax exempt from the IRS...there are certain things such politcal commenting that the IRS can make the church start paying taxes and such. Im not to familar with this rule, but I belive its not really enforced that well.

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