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Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 10:25:17 AMQuote from: Intriago on March 20, 2008, 09:28:00 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 09:19:47 AMThat's fucking obsessive though. Why should you want to spend your time doing that, unless you're planning to go to the olympics? You can be healthy with a lot less exercise...Was that directed towards me? You're not going to gain muscle going to the gym once a week doing bicep curls.Which initiates the next question... Why on earth would you feel the need to gain muscle? You're a human being, not a predator who has to hunt for his food. Being in shape doesn't mean you have to reshape yourself, does it?It's not a mere matter of questioning the motives of you personally, but more of a whole development. There seem to be plenty of guys in here who lift weights and build up their muscles as if that's the most virtuous thing to do in life. I simply fail to see the point though. As long as you're healthy in a normal way, you wouldn't need all that muscle, and you certainly wouldn't need to put in so much time into achieving just that. I do some bench presses like twice a week, just inside of my home, and whenever I feel like it I might just do some sit ups and some biceps exercises. That's it. It's enough for my muscles to stay in shape. I'll go for a run in the park when I feel like it, because that actually does contribute to my physical well being. Being able to lift a man of my own size doesn't. There's just no point in it.The question is simple. Why? Why gain muscle? Why put in so much time? Why devote your whole schedule to it? Just why?I like the whole lifestyle - testing myself physically and eating a good diet, it makes me feel good. It keeps you in a strict routine, where I have to meet deadlines and make progressions and that can carry over into positive stuff outside of the gym.Who wouldn't want to gain some muscle? Nobody wants me to be a 140lb skeleton.What is being healthy? A ton of people probably think they are, but the odds are they are probably not. I eat clean 6 days a week, I allow myself on Sunday to snack out on some shit I don't consider healthy, and you can sure as hell expect to see me with some beers in my hand over the weekend.It's like a lot of things in life, there's an extreme to everything.
Quote from: Intriago on March 20, 2008, 09:28:00 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 09:19:47 AMThat's fucking obsessive though. Why should you want to spend your time doing that, unless you're planning to go to the olympics? You can be healthy with a lot less exercise...Was that directed towards me? You're not going to gain muscle going to the gym once a week doing bicep curls.Which initiates the next question... Why on earth would you feel the need to gain muscle? You're a human being, not a predator who has to hunt for his food. Being in shape doesn't mean you have to reshape yourself, does it?It's not a mere matter of questioning the motives of you personally, but more of a whole development. There seem to be plenty of guys in here who lift weights and build up their muscles as if that's the most virtuous thing to do in life. I simply fail to see the point though. As long as you're healthy in a normal way, you wouldn't need all that muscle, and you certainly wouldn't need to put in so much time into achieving just that. I do some bench presses like twice a week, just inside of my home, and whenever I feel like it I might just do some sit ups and some biceps exercises. That's it. It's enough for my muscles to stay in shape. I'll go for a run in the park when I feel like it, because that actually does contribute to my physical well being. Being able to lift a man of my own size doesn't. There's just no point in it.The question is simple. Why? Why gain muscle? Why put in so much time? Why devote your whole schedule to it? Just why?
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 09:19:47 AMThat's fucking obsessive though. Why should you want to spend your time doing that, unless you're planning to go to the olympics? You can be healthy with a lot less exercise...Was that directed towards me? You're not going to gain muscle going to the gym once a week doing bicep curls.
That's fucking obsessive though. Why should you want to spend your time doing that, unless you're planning to go to the olympics? You can be healthy with a lot less exercise...
Quote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 10:25:17 AMQuote from: Intriago on March 20, 2008, 09:28:00 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 09:19:47 AMThat's fucking obsessive though. Why should you want to spend your time doing that, unless you're planning to go to the olympics? You can be healthy with a lot less exercise...Was that directed towards me? You're not going to gain muscle going to the gym once a week doing bicep curls.Which initiates the next question... Why on earth would you feel the need to gain muscle? You're a human being, not a predator who has to hunt for his food. Being in shape doesn't mean you have to reshape yourself, does it?It's not a mere matter of questioning the motives of you personally, but more of a whole development. There seem to be plenty of guys in here who lift weights and build up their muscles as if that's the most virtuous thing to do in life. I simply fail to see the point though. As long as you're healthy in a normal way, you wouldn't need all that muscle, and you certainly wouldn't need to put in so much time into achieving just that. I do some bench presses like twice a week, just inside of my home, and whenever I feel like it I might just do some sit ups and some biceps exercises. That's it. It's enough for my muscles to stay in shape. I'll go for a run in the park when I feel like it, because that actually does contribute to my physical well being. Being able to lift a man of my own size doesn't. There's just no point in it.The question is simple. Why? Why gain muscle? Why put in so much time? Why devote your whole schedule to it? Just why?Why are you questioning why someone would wanna work to reach their potential? Come on, now...we, as humans, have the power to be vicious beings. We should strive to be be as good as we can...and that means physically too.
Quote from: Now_I_Know on March 20, 2008, 12:36:16 PMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 10:25:17 AMQuote from: Intriago on March 20, 2008, 09:28:00 AMQuote from: Eleven 2 Three on March 20, 2008, 09:19:47 AMThat's fucking obsessive though. Why should you want to spend your time doing that, unless you're planning to go to the olympics? You can be healthy with a lot less exercise...Was that directed towards me? You're not going to gain muscle going to the gym once a week doing bicep curls.Which initiates the next question... Why on earth would you feel the need to gain muscle? You're a human being, not a predator who has to hunt for his food. Being in shape doesn't mean you have to reshape yourself, does it?It's not a mere matter of questioning the motives of you personally, but more of a whole development. There seem to be plenty of guys in here who lift weights and build up their muscles as if that's the most virtuous thing to do in life. I simply fail to see the point though. As long as you're healthy in a normal way, you wouldn't need all that muscle, and you certainly wouldn't need to put in so much time into achieving just that. I do some bench presses like twice a week, just inside of my home, and whenever I feel like it I might just do some sit ups and some biceps exercises. That's it. It's enough for my muscles to stay in shape. I'll go for a run in the park when I feel like it, because that actually does contribute to my physical well being. Being able to lift a man of my own size doesn't. There's just no point in it.The question is simple. Why? Why gain muscle? Why put in so much time? Why devote your whole schedule to it? Just why?Why are you questioning why someone would wanna work to reach their potential? Come on, now...we, as humans, have the power to be vicious beings. We should strive to be be as good as we can...and that means physically too. To think that Job assumes I'm blindly defending you for being a fellow white... I don't think he realizes on how many issues we totally disagree with each other.This issue is very simple to me... Human beings don't have the powers of their physical being on their side when it comes to survival. Man needs his mind. That's how we managed to survive throughout the centuries: in no way could early civilizations survive, but for them to realize that they cannot win one on one fights with wolves and bears - they needed instruments to be successful. That's the human mind at work. The body is only the instrument that has the task to put the ideas of the mind to use. Human beings are no good when it comes to their physical being. We managed to walk straight up and we've got some useful hands, but that's about it. We don't need claws when we've got spears and traps, or later on rifles and bombs. We don't need strong muscles, when we've got the invention of the wheel, pulleys, steam engines and so forth. That's the human mind at work. That's survival at its finest. I'd rather discipline myself studying the laws of the universe I'm living in, than to discipline myself in gaining muscles I don't need. And there's no need to impress women with your physical development, when really, the women who are really worth it do realize that principle.Peace.
i do it cuz the lady likes it and because it's fun to get laid.
Quote from: Don Jacob on March 20, 2008, 01:38:58 PMi do it cuz the lady likes it and because it's fun to get laid. Aren't you married? LOL
I enjoy jogging a great deal, and it gives me pretty much the same feeling a workout used to give me when I was into that stuff. Running can be exhausting, it's a great way to keep your body in shape, you'll exercise plenty of practical muscles and you can see the progress as you go.
You don't need an expensive gym subscription for that!
But really, do you think it'll have that much of an influence on your body to 'eat clean' six days a week?