It's May 11, 2024, 05:45:21 AM
Total Members Voted: 9
This ain't no democracy, and it doesn't have to be, agreed. I think we're pretty lucky, Seer and Rud and whoever calls shots on larger-scale issues tend to be quite reasonable people.
Doggy's global mod status is subject to some debate, but since I get along with dude personally, I don't feel like getting into that myself and it's no issue worth bringing up in this thread. So no discussion needed as to whose decision it is to ban Job or not, Seer can have a look at what the general opinion on this is, but the decision is of course his.
I don't even think Job's looking for confirmation. Being told that he's right by everyone, or even just a sizeable percentage of (white or other non-black) people on here would make it way more difficult to make his point: That (almost) everybody belonging to a certain ethnical group (I'll stay with terminology I consider correct myself, since I refuse to use expressions like "Caucasian race") is ignorant and/or oblivious of whatever he considers facts. Since virtually everyone - and that, as you'll certainly acknowledge, includes me - disagrees with those views of his, replies are negative.
Now, I have clearly stated opinions contrary to Job's in several discussions, on some occasions he actually had a point or half-point and I said so, but his general opinions on race-related issues, which account for most of his contributions, I don't agree with. The reason I get along with him better than most others in here, et vice versa, is probably mainly that in my case he found out I'm not about bullying or insulting him.
That ATM PM exchange is probably one of the most absurd starts I've ever seen to even an internet beef and shit like that does make me think. However, while it borders the grotesque, it's all too common on dubcc for people to offend each other and throw around dumb insults; I mentioned Elano, why not ban his borderline-IQ ass on the same grounds you'd ban Job on?
While there's hardly anything to argue about Job being both repetitious and often offensive, the part of my statement which you didn't reply to (no offense intended) is that the whole thing works in an astonishingly symbiotic way; in your particular case it seems Job insulted you for no good reason, at least that's as much as I can tell from what I know. If that's true, then from your personal perspective, I understand you want him banned. But if people gatecrash his threads (or anyone's he might have posted in) and talk lame stuff about nigger-this-nigger-that, even if Job's statement/thread had no relation to race, typing whatever crappy joke comes to mind in eager anticipation of incurring his wrath and getting dissed so they can enjoy the seemingly priceless experience of dissing back, what are you gonna say? Ban 'em all? That's why, although I entirely agree with you on a theoretical level, in this exemplary case that is the Job situation on dubcc, I'm still finding it hard to see a clear solution to the problem and that's why if you want to justify his banning using the intellectual concepts we're debating over here in the first place (and NOT his racism), I'm seeing difficulties. But to get back to the beginning, if Seer wants him off, so be it, of course. Creating a profile on a message board means accepting being the guest of whoever calls the shots and if you have to leave the place, that's just the way it is.