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lets no mince words,Takeover was better than Ether
Banjo:
--- Quote ---everyone always forgets but TAKEOVER only had 1 verse dissin nas, the whole song ether was about jigga,,,,and jayz destroyed nas wit one verse!
also takeover is a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy better beat
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Word...
I TO DA GEEZY:
man, Im real sorry you need me to point that out for you, just look for yourself: Jay had this FAN point of view consept on "takeover", that logiclly hurts the most for an artist, He wasn't just spraying venom with no bite like NAS did on "ether" at times...He had structure. "fell from top10 to not mentioned at all", "1 hot album every 10 years averrage", "one was EHHH the other was Illmatic"....These are all lethal, Plus Shit had alot of humour in it showing Jay's cool and not-dependent atidute towards the isue shining with confidence without taking chip-childish-simplistic shots.
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--- Quote ---man, Im real sorry you need me to point that out for you, just look for yourself: Jay had this FAN point of view consept on "takeover", that logiclly hurts the most for an artist, He wasn't just spraying venom with no bite like NAS did on "ether" at times...He had structure. "fell from top10 to not mentioned at all", "1 hot album every 10 years averrage", "one was EHHH the other was Illmatic"....These are all lethal, Plus Shit had alot of humour in it showing Jay's cool and not-dependent atidute towards the isue shining with confidence without taking chip-childish-simplistic shots.
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Honestly, I don't understand where Jay got that 'hot album every 10 years average' nonsense from. Nas dropped an amazing, flawless classic (something Jay has never dropped may I add), an almost classic (hotter than hot), a solid album, ONE wack album and then another classic. And as for 'fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all', Jay's never been in my top 10, and probably never will be, he's good, but not that good. Plus, Nas has and probably always will have a spot in the top 10 due to "Illmatic", and now "Stillmatic", plus numerous spotless guest appearences that account to his gifted lyricism. Nas is done with this beef anyways, it seems to me like Jigga is the one holding onto this. Just watch, he'll probably have another diss song aimed at Nas on his next effort.
Oh and Jay was coming from a fan's perspective because that's all he is compared to Nas, a fan that can't touch Nas, which Nas pointed out in "Ether".
Cliche:
the difference being that Jay's talking shit "one hot album every ten year average".. Jay's been around since before Nas dropped, and he's got 3 utterly wack joints, one dope album, and one good album...
"you made it a hot line, i made it a hot song" ... too bad Jigga never has and never will make anything on the level of "The World Is Yours"...
when exactly did Nas stop getting mentioned as a top MC? i must have missed that...
yeah you can tell Jigga didn't care about the beef... cat had a breakdown on the damn radio for christs sake.
but hey i guess if you're a jigga fan you're gonna feel a certain way...
I TO DA GEEZY:
--- Quote --->= link=board=outbound;num=1031184419;start=20#27 date=09/08/02 at 08:58:46]
Honestly, I don't understand where Jay got that 'hot album every 10 years average' nonsense from. Nas dropped an amazing, flawless classic (something Jay has never dropped may I add), an almost classic (hotter than hot), a solid album, ONE wack album and then another classic. And as for 'fell from top 10 to not mentioned at all', Jay's never been in my top 10, and probably never will be, he's good, but not that good. Plus, Nas has and probably always will have a spot in the top 10 due to "Illmatic", and now "Stillmatic", plus numerous spotless guest appearences that account to his gifted lyricism. Nas is done with this beef anyways, it seems to me like Jigga is the one holding onto this. Just watch, he'll probably have another diss song aimed at Nas on his next effort.
Oh and Jay was coming from a fan's perspective because that's all he is compared to Nas, a fan that can't touch Nas, which Nas pointed out in "Ether".
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Lets see, RD classic, VOL1 near classic, VOL2 -downside wack, VOL3-near classic, Familia-SOLID, Blueprint- Classic...
Nas-Illmatic-classic, IWW- garbage, I am- Garbage(an improvement from the previous one tho), Nastradamus- garbage , Stillmatic-solid and may be even near classic.
Facts in Disses always hit harder of course, But it's not crusial if u know how to speculate right(if some Nas fans don't agree with it, it doesn't mean it wasn't true as well but hell with it), When Jay said what he said on takeover it did feel, smell and sounded like the truth even to the most denieing NAS fan, Because that's what he was trying to do- SHOW NAS how his averrage fan thought of him.
what you're sayin as for jigga only being A FAN compared to NAS is simply reciting ETHER'z atempt to trash takeover's consept without having one itself.
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