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Would anyone else feel differently bout joining the military if Obama was prez?

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--- Quote from: virtuoso on May 23, 2008, 01:31:55 PM ---
I give up lol you haven;t ever read the document and yet you dismiss a bigger conspiring against the frigging world not alone the people. I never said anything about an extermination policy akin to the bolsheviks either, I said and I repeat, there has NEVER been a time where openly governments are trying to sell people that torture is a good thing. Yes I do call a a conspiracy to create lies which leads to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, yes I call it a conspiracy to disband every government institution knowing the chaos it would bring.

I am done responding to you when you have never even read the central think tank document to this all though, so keep ranting about me being a "conspiracy theorist" if you like, it really doesn't matter.

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I never said you did. Only that you can't make the comparison unless such a policy exists.

I don't think anyone really accepts that torture is a good thing, just as nobody really accepted the rationale for invading Iraq. I think many people just kind of accept the hopelessness that tends to pervade to the point where they don't care. And for what it's worth, the average American doesn't find the average insurgent in Iraq to be all that sympathetic. I mean, these are people who cut off heads and want to spread a totalitarian ideology that's every bit as fucked up as fascism and Marxism.

Australian Bastard:
I reackon you are both right, there is often no need for a formal conspiracy because people are incredibly predictable and will usually play their part.
As I said, i got friends in the army and there is no secret about war, it changes people with or without orders from the top.

However, i still think there are some think-tanks out there constantly going through possible future scenarios, working ever to shape the future, like the Princess Diana car crash, that shit was murder IMO. Can you imagine her alive today with an Arab husband? It would've made things difficult for the military to do what they have done since then without her dead, she wouldve been an obstacle culturally and media wise. In all my glorious paranoia, I believe there are mutherfuckers out there doing the little things that alter the flow of history...

virtuoso:

For sure think tanks have that objective in mind, they are actively mapping out scenarios for every aspect of politics, focus groups are created with the intention in mind of studying analysing and assessing peoples mind frame to those scenarios, to those individual politicians, to particular policies, to particular social groups etc. It's no secret that political groups employs psychologists to map out for them and draw them a picture of where the political landscape lies.

Hood$tar:
If you're honestly thinking about joining the Navy for money, and getting out in 3 or 4 years, you shouldn't pursue a military career at all. The pay in the Navy sucks when you first enlist, and from the pay grades of E-1 to E-4, you have to live on military base, and advancing up to an E-5 takes anywhere between 8 and 13 years, depending on your conduct, aptitude, and performance. But if you do want to join, I would reccommend Nurse Corps, which is a slack job, but they give you free college education, and you only have to serve 4 to 6 years to get an honorable discharge

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