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Australian Bastard:

--- Quote from: virtuoso on May 26, 2008, 01:05:52 PM ---I tell you the biggest irony in all of this though, the way in which the establishment has been able to turn peoples opposition on and off, i.e. if you think that western governments create and manufacture terrorist events then you are a conspiracy theorist but oh aliens most likely do exist. Lol this shit is so funny to me. Now I am not saying that there is not other life form out there, but the fact that someone would go from 2 such extreme viewpoints really does just say it all.

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Even though people may work or have worked in the government, they are still individual human-beings with individual opinions, their opinion isn't necessarily that of the establishment they work for.

I know what you mean about global warming and the scientific community and of course it has been hyped up, 'sexed up'.
I don' know so much about the correlation between global warming and fossil fuels myself, but there is substantial stuudies that indicate a relation, how strong that relation is, is questionable of course. Gore took the studies and pushed it to the hypothetical extreme. Scientist are supposed to be sceptics, so its a shame that the sceptics in the global warming debate have been hounded away. However, my own un-scientific assertion is that chopping down forests and such, raping the earth; does have effects somewhere. We might not flood ourselves, but pollution is a bitch to breath and to live with and not just for us...
Just because Gore is a fear mongerer, dosn't invalidate the scientist's claims who genuinely have conducted studies and found a relation between global warming and fossil fuels.


a man's intentions should be allowed in some respects to plead for his actions
-George Washington.


Australia has become marvelous at conserving water over the past year, because we have a drought, so it can be done if the average person takes what they use into account. However, there is of course hypocrisy in it all aswell. I have a fucking compost in my backyard, I recycle everything I can, conserve and save water and when I get a house I will probably get enough solar panel to take myself off the power-grid. But when Im at work, I see the company throwing away huge amounts of paper and cardboard into the compacter bin without sorting it for recycling...

We watch the lightening
crack over can fields
laugh and think that
this is Australian
-Ganggajang, 'Sounds of Then'.

virtuoso:

Ah let me throw some things into the mix so I don't go and leave you with the impression that I am denying that humans do not cause damage. Of course man, deadly chemicals are emitted into the earths atmosphere, are dumped into our water supply, so it's not just the impact it has on us but also the impact on the sea life. There is no doubt that it's insane to chop down the rain forests and I agree with you on that but my take on on carbon dioxide is that they have picked up on this in particular because it presents governments with a chance to further tax and regulate. Only this time the taxes themselves will not meet the opposition that other taxes do because "its for the earth". It's not for the earth though is it how does raising taxes save the earth. Let me tell you this bro, industry has been vehemently criticised for the pollution it causes and I agree but in the west this pollution factor has been addressed but meanwhile most of the manufacturing base of the world has been shipped over to China. Of course you don't need to do too much reading up to ascertain that the pollution controls in China are basically non existent.

They are fucking around with the very essence of life right now by randomly splicing genes from different groups of animals and then seeing here eat this nutritous genetically modified garbage. Now I know some people in the environmental movement don't seem to care much about human beings but I wonder if they have ever thought about mother earth.  The honey bees are dying out in great number, massive cross pollination is occurring, super resistant weeds are spawning etc, I wonder if genetically modified crops are causing this?

I tell you the broader point of this gore environmental movement amigo, they have identified through the mass protests held by people against gm foods, to the protests against the rainforests, that there is a blooming opposition to all of this and so instead of opposing it, they have done the smart and devious thing by controlling the dialetic. They themselves have formed themselves into opposition groups and therefore by masquerading as the voice against all of this, they are able to placate people but more importantly steer the agenda and so you will notice al gore and his fanatics never focus in on these issues instead it's conjuring up apocalyptic visions of the earths future if the carbon dioxide levels are not addressed.

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