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Ready To Die Vs. Illmatic
Hittman:
Yo I Geezy, Smartass is right, Slick Rick is easily the King Of Storytelling. I can say that without even liking his music.
Oh and to actually talk about the point of the thread, Illmatic is better. Songs like Lifes A Bitch & NY State Of Mind proves that. Theres alot of new cats to hip hop who hate on Illmatic when they hear it, but its definetely a contender for the album that grows on you the more you listen.
I TO DA GEEZY:
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yeah i'm an idiot but people are questioning you and not me?
notice how you said "i" as the listener? whatever you like in an artist may not be something i like. i would much rather hear about something important than stupid shit that biggie didn't even have to do because he had a GREAT LIFE.
how can i act like i like something when i don't?
i understand that you can't admit when your wrong.
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The fact people questioning me or you has nothing to do with the arguement, do u base all your opinions on what other people think?...I agree on that something I like U may not like and the other way around....
what I speak against is dismissing artists because of topicz they choose to talk about...IMO that is very close minded- it's tha same as censouring, the only thing we can expect from rappers as listeners is to know how to tell whatever theme they pick otherwise you gapredise your taste to half finished material and gimmickz since any half assed rapper who tries to talk about " world hunger" will atract you more than a fine MC spitten a detailed well structured story on some less important topic.
smartass:
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The fact people questioning me or you has nothing to do with the arguement, do u base all your opinions on what other people think?...I agree on that something I like U may not like and the other way around....
what I speak against is dismissing artists because of topicz they choose to talk about...IMO that is very close minded- it's tha same as censouring, the only thing we can expect from rappers as listeners is to know how to tell whatever theme they pick otherwise you gapredise your taste to half finished material and gimmickz since any half assed rapper who tries to talk about " world hunger" will atract you more than a fine MC spitten a detailed well structured story on some less important topic.
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if i based my opinions on what other people think i would've just said illmatic or ready to die and not went into detail about the issue. i can go from listening to ras kass to 2pac to wc so i'm certainly not close minded. most rappers who rap about important issues are alot better than your average run of the mill rapper. i'm not saying that that's the case all of the time but i would say about 75%. if a rapper spits nice he will get regular rotation in my changer no matter what he raps about but i won't think its the best because its very easy to rap about guns, women, drugs, and killing even if you haven't experienced it. your basically just doing what the majority want you to do.
Black_Smoke:
Illmatic
I TO DA GEEZY:
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if i based my opinions on what other people think i would've just said illmatic or ready to die and not went into detail about the issue. i can go from listening to ras kass to 2pac to wc so i'm certainly not close minded. most rappers who rap about important issues are alot better than your average run of the mill rapper. i'm not saying that that's the case all of the time but i would say about 75%. if a rapper spits nice he will get regular rotation in my changer no matter what he raps about but i won't think its the best because its very easy to rap about guns, women, drugs, and killing even if you haven't experienced it. your basically just doing what the majority want you to do.
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It's very easy to rap about guns, drugs and killing? really...if u say so, I on the other hand tend to think that rapping about certain things doesn't make it easier nor harder, worst or better, it's the final product the matters: otherwise u just do ,what (let's say) the people who hate on Eminem nowdays are doing-u dismiss a rapper because of a topic he chooses to talk about no metter how well he does it. U basiclly take his freedom of speach from him...you see, I trust my taste enough to know when I hear lyrical garbage and when I hear some genius work, unlike u, a small glimpse at tha topic is not something I need, to judge stuff by it.
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