How does album sales work?

[famozni]

shade i have a question? how did u get timbaland on track money owners?
im curios?

[Muhfukka]

[D-Stress]

and what about artist dont get credited?
is it like: "if your name appears in the credits we must pay you, so we leave your name out"?

[Meho]

Props for replying Shade. There's one thing I don't get; not to say that I don't believe you abut your independet game but if it's like that, why don't your Jay-Z's, 50's, Snoop's... sign to an independent label instead of being on major ?

[Rud]

Props for replying Shade. There's one thing I don't get; not to say that I don't believe you abut your independet game but if it's like that, why don't your Jay-Z's, 50's, Snoop's... sign to an independent label instead of being on major ?

Well for one, if your successful on a major and i mean massively then yes you will always make more money than indi cause you can garner more touring, endorsement and publicity and thus generate earn more cash. The other reason - and it links directly in with my first is Fame.

Both those are only applicable to about 5% of the total in industry and thats why indi is a popular route as you can still make good money on a massively smaller fan base/exposure platform.

[Meho]

That does make sense, thanks.

[D-Stress]

and what about artist dont get credited?
is it like: "if your name appears in the credits we must pay you, so we leave your name out"?

[Shade Sheist™]

and what about artist dont get credited?
is it like: "if your name appears in the credits we must pay you, so we leave your name out"?

If appearing in the credits meant you got paid.. homie.. we'd all be broke..
There is prolly over a million dollars in fees, publishing and royalties I couldve collected, but instead waived credit
for the benefit of progression..

Props for replying Shade. There's one thing I don't get; not to say that I don't believe you abut your independet game but if it's like that, why don't your Jay-Z's, 50's,
Snoop's... sign to an independent label instead of being on major ?

If you do a lil research.. you will discover that Jay-Z is preparing to sign a RECORD deal with Live Nation (an events company)..
and 50 Cent is considering signing his G-Unit label to Myspace Records after his next and final album on Interscope..

They would've done this earlier.. but they were TRAPPED in their BS major deals!  I wasn't.. so I got a head start to the finishline!!

[smegma]

tq explained it a few years ago nicely on tqboard...

Basically U got millions of people making music. Thousands trying to get deals and hundreds with deals already. Tens get released. Less than that blow the fu©k up. One out of a million can say, when it's all said and done, "Damn I made a lot of money making music!".
Thank God that today I can say that I made, and make a lot of money making music. Remember when TLC and Toni Braxton among others were filing bankruptcy left and right? U know why? It's because they made about a nickel for every record they sold! I mean these are some of the biggest artists to touch the earth. Some of the best albums ever! Sure to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame someday. Over 10 million records sold! But what is 10 million nickels? To split between 3 people? That ain't gonna last very long yall, ya feel me? And I guarantee u they worked their fingers to the bone! It's a damn shame. I was headed down the same road at 1st, but the hustler in me raised a red flag. I had to get my paperwork right dawgs. This ain't no soup kitchen. I make music 4 money so pay me muthafu©ka. That's my motto. Because of that, I may never be as big as u guys would like me to be. I'm sorry, but I just don't take no sh!t cuz I don't have to. The main reason that " Gemini" was never released by Cash Money was that Baby didn't have his paperwork right. He would've had to pay me more than he could even make off me, so it wasn't in his best interest. Then he figured out that he would have to pay me to let me go! My man went on for damn near two years not knowing what the fu©k to do! It was hilarious, but I completely understand! He's a business man and I am too. Our dealings weren't gonna come out good for both of us. But I still walked outta there with a check... It's all about what u sign yall... IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT U SIGN! U HAVE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND YOUR WHOLE CONTRACT! After reading so many, I've come to the conclusion that I'll stay independent. I got my thugz with me so what else do I need? Let's do some math. If I can make 8 bucks a record do I really need to sell a million of them? I mean don't get me wrong, it would be nice, but is it neccessary? I ain't hard to please. fu©k stuntin'. I got a couple of cribs, a couple of rides, a couple of toys here and there, and my family ain't hurtin' for nothing. All praises due to God man! The ONLY thing important to me at this point in my career is that YOU GUYS get the music that u want from me. And as much of it as u can stand! I'm gonna give u straight up TQ sh!t. Period. Yall cool with that? I mean, we been down for a long time. I think we know each other pretty well. All we got is us. These R&B niggas are always gonna sing bullsh!t, cuz bullsh!t is what allows them to feed their families. Go figure. U will ALWAYS have me... ALWAYS. I love yall.
There are some drawbacks tho'...
I don't have control over where my records are and aren't. I don't have the money, power, or staff of a major label. Some people just won't be able to find my sh!t in their neighborhoods. Period! Some people always will. That's the way of the gun yall. U gotta play the game. I can't do anything about that. I try my best, but I can only reach so far... I will never stop trying though, believe that... And I'll tell u what we do have...

WWW.THUGPOETRY.COM

The hottest website on the planet!

[kuruptDPG]

thanks shade for that

[Shade Sheist™]

TQ is a close friend of mine.. and has been forever..
and funny enough.. we had THIS conversation in a hotel suite
in Vegas, while we were chillin with Mariah Carey, Kurupt and Mizza..

If you notice.. he almost said exactly what I said..
..but then TQ is also on my wealth level..

Take this info and use it.

[Mackin]

and what about artist dont get credited?
is it like: "if your name appears in the credits we must pay you, so we leave your name out"?

If appearing in the credits meant you got paid.. homie.. we'd all be broke..
There is prolly over a million dollars in fees, publishing and royalties I couldve collected, but instead waived credit
for the benefit of progression..

Again On Point!
I was going to say the exact same thing!.Being credited to a song does not mean automatic check. This remuneration could  be handed out in various other ways!
If the artist uses this opportunity as a Resume to better themselves it will all even out in the end!
If the artist whines and moans about, then they won't get any way...
props

[D-Stress]

why are artists dont get credits sometimes then?

[smegma]

TQ is a close friend of mine.. and has been forever..
and funny enough.. we had THIS conversation in a hotel suite
in Vegas, while we were chillin with Mariah Carey, Kurupt and Mizza..

If you notice.. he almost said exactly what I said..
..but then TQ is also on my wealth level..

Take this info and use it.

What's Mariah's stand on it? She's been signed to a major her entire career.

[pootypooty]

TQ is a close friend of mine.. and has been forever..
and funny enough.. we had THIS conversation in a hotel suite
in Vegas, while we were chillin with Mariah Carey, Kurupt and Mizza..

If you notice.. he almost said exactly what I said..
..but then TQ is also on my wealth level..

Take this info and use it.

What's Mariah's stand on it? She's been signed to a major her entire career.

LMFAO!!

Internet sarcasm at its finest.