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Better Than You - "tough guy" sort of track, some big egos He reminds of 50 Cent a lot on this track. One of the better Focus beats I've heard. 4/5
^^ not a bad review...Africa and Donkey kong have the best instrumentals imo and bishops flow on donkey kong is easily the best imo...if he could spit like that abit more alot of ppl outside dre dickriders would feel him imo and on africa he showed he can work with a beat and be innovative with a beat...something that needs to be done in order to make hits and he should work on doi more creeative shit like that more often..
.africa actually sounds like something dre would do back in the day when he was still makin fire for joke...
As for the last joint...the greatest trick or watever its called....the hook is nice and the beat is 'ok' at best imo....as for 'dre falling off etc...if his beats are anything like this for detox, it will be easily the worst shit he has ever dropped...but i already know without hearing the album that dres album will be nothing like the sound of this joint...just from following his careerpz
Ok, here's a quick recap just for you:Overall I'd give it a 4/5 (too lazy to calculate all those ratings). Like I've said before, I've rated it from the aspect of a mixtape, hoping to find some album material on it. And I did. Send A Nigga Home, What People Do, Right, Kissin The Curb, Everyday, Can't Figure It Out, Donkey Kong Savage and possibly The Greatest Trick are all album worthy and of course It Hurts, which we now found out was planned for the album (hope it still makes it). The other tracks were good too, just felt unfinished from either production or Bishop's lazy flow. And his flow is the only thing that still remains a question mark, when he's focused he sounds great but when he's not he's like a westcoast version of 50 Cent. I still think that Pope Mobile was the best representation of what the Reformation is gonna sound like, it ahd that Aftermath feel to it. Now I'm patiently waiting for the suppose leak of Grown Up.
I still think that Pope Mobile was the best representation of what the Reformation is gonna sound like, it ahd that Aftermath feel to it
what's all the fuss about Africa?That beat soundsquite average sounding to me (bishop on the other hand is really dope there).Then again I really LOVE ghetto song (as a whole, and I really enjoy the beat) and that seems to be 1 of the songs everyone hates
Quote from: Booz on June 12, 2008, 11:30:26 AMQuote from: Dre-Day - Pope of Dubcc on June 12, 2008, 10:39:10 AMmy review:You basically judge those songs by it's beats? it's an important factor, cause if i'm not feeling it, then there isn't much possible for me to save a track ( no matter how dope the verse, flow, hook or whatever is).then again, i didn't comment on everything, that's why the overall rating is not the average of the track ratings put together.besides,i think it's really hard for me to describe the feelings/thoughts i get when listening to a track.Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 12, 2008, 11:12:04 AM^^ not a bad review...Africa and Donkey kong have the best instrumentals imo and bishops flow on donkey kong is easily the best imo...if he could spit like that abit more alot of ppl outside dre dickriders would feel him imo and on africa he showed he can work with a beat and be innovative with a beat...something that needs to be done in order to make hits and he should work on doi more creeative shit like that more often...africa actually sounds like something dre would do back in the day when he was still makin fire for joke...As for the last joint...the greatest trick or watever its called....the hook is nice and the beat is 'ok' at best imo....as for 'dre falling off etc...if his beats are anything like this for detox, it will be easily the worst shit he has ever dropped...but i already know without hearing the album that dres album will be nothing like the sound of this joint...just from following his careerpzthanks well i think we disagree about the production of The Greatest Trick then.by the way, (to avoid confusion; so i'm not saying that you thought that i said the following-->) i wasn't saying that i thought that The Greatest Trick was an indication of the Detox sound at all.i was just saying that, this street album track already sounds dope to me, so i wondered what i would think of the production of Detox
Quote from: Dre-Day - Pope of Dubcc on June 12, 2008, 10:39:10 AMmy review:You basically judge those songs by it's beats?
my review:
^^ not a bad review...Africa and Donkey kong have the best instrumentals imo and bishops flow on donkey kong is easily the best imo...if he could spit like that abit more alot of ppl outside dre dickriders would feel him imo and on africa he showed he can work with a beat and be innovative with a beat...something that needs to be done in order to make hits and he should work on doi more creeative shit like that more often...africa actually sounds like something dre would do back in the day when he was still makin fire for joke...As for the last joint...the greatest trick or watever its called....the hook is nice and the beat is 'ok' at best imo....as for 'dre falling off etc...if his beats are anything like this for detox, it will be easily the worst shit he has ever dropped...but i already know without hearing the album that dres album will be nothing like the sound of this joint...just from following his careerpz
Meho, do you plan to write a conclusion, and come up with an overall rating ( just wondering)?Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 12, 2008, 11:12:04 AM^^ not a bad review...Africa and Donkey kong have the best instrumentals imo and bishops flow on donkey kong is easily the best imo...if he could spit like that abit more alot of ppl outside dre dickriders would feel him imo and on africa he showed he can work with a beat and be innovative with a beat...something that needs to be done in order to make hits and he should work on doi more creeative shit like that more often..so basically you're saying that, those who like bishop's music are biased?? Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 12, 2008, 11:12:04 AM.africa actually sounds like something dre would do back in the day when he was still makin fire for joke...so you're saying that Dre has fallen off a bit?Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 12, 2008, 11:12:04 AMAs for the last joint...the greatest trick or watever its called....the hook is nice and the beat is 'ok' at best imo....as for 'dre falling off etc...if his beats are anything like this for detox, it will be easily the worst shit he has ever dropped...but i already know without hearing the album that dres album will be nothing like the sound of this joint...just from following his careerpzand this is obvious, why?
I think bishop has 3 fan bases right now....the ones who followed him from the start, the ones who joined in just because he is signed with dre...and SOME who started to like him after hearin hs music recently...I think its natural for an average music fan to feel someone even if they aint good simply because they are signed to someone they love...in this case dre...and no i aint sayin bishop is not a good rapper...im just speakin in general...Then there are people like me who check his music because of his affiliation with dre but are still on the fence in terms of how good he really is...I really do not think bishops buzz is big at all right now outside aftermath fans but i think that can improve hugely after his debut single if its heated.
As for do i think dre has falled off? Without doubt, dre aint been the dre who made every other producers shit look like a level below his music for 3 years now...Im a huge dre fan but im not one who can not be critical of him too, i never cling on someones nuts...i've been highly critical of alot of people but i too have faith. Unlike some people who believe dre has fallen off period, i think he will come back with heat. I think a good indicator of this is when bishop said that 'i dominate' is 4th single material...meaning that since that was made dre has been stepping his own game up alot because he mst have alot better shit now if 'i dominate' went from 1st to 4th single material.
As for the last comment about detox will easily be his worst shit ever if the greatest trick joint is an indication of how the album will sound, thats really self explanatory if one has heard his two previous joints as im sure nearly everyone in here has.pz ;-)
Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 17, 2008, 09:40:45 AMI think bishop has 3 fan bases right now....the ones who followed him from the start, the ones who joined in just because he is signed with dre...and SOME who started to like him after hearin hs music recently...I think its natural for an average music fan to feel someone even if they aint good simply because they are signed to someone they love...in this case dre...and no i aint sayin bishop is not a good rapper...im just speakin in general...Then there are people like me who check his music because of his affiliation with dre but are still on the fence in terms of how good he really is...I really do not think bishops buzz is big at all right now outside aftermath fans but i think that can improve hugely after his debut single if its heated.perhaps you should have posted this the first time, as you pretty much got rid of the generaliation, from your old post.Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 17, 2008, 09:40:45 AMAs for do i think dre has falled off? Without doubt, dre aint been the dre who made every other producers shit look like a level below his music for 3 years now...Im a huge dre fan but im not one who can not be critical of him too, i never cling on someones nuts...i've been highly critical of alot of people but i too have faith. Unlike some people who believe dre has fallen off period, i think he will come back with heat. I think a good indicator of this is when bishop said that 'i dominate' is 4th single material...meaning that since that was made dre has been stepping his own game up alot because he mst have alot better shit now if 'i dominate' went from 1st to 4th single material.that's not a fact; it's just your perception.Quote from: LyRiCaL_G on June 17, 2008, 09:40:45 AMAs for the last comment about detox will easily be his worst shit ever if the greatest trick joint is an indication of how the album will sound, thats really self explanatory if one has heard his two previous joints as im sure nearly everyone in here has.pz ;-)again, i don't see why it's so obvious.you need to come with better arguments, otherwise it's pointless to defend such a statement in the first place.-how do you know that it's a common thought that, Detox would be wack, if the production of "The Greatest Trick" was an indictator of the "sound" of Detox; did you do thorough research?