Kobe Ain't No MJ

[teecee]

one thing about MJ, he always defended his title.  he just refused to lose in the finals; check his last title and look at his teammates stats.  he did it all offensively, pippen was like odom

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

^LOL! Pippen never disappeared like Odom did in this series, and if Kerr and Paxson missed those big shots like Vujacic did in Game 4 (1-9 FG), then there's no way he woulda done it all on his own. MJ refused to lose alright.. but so does Kobe. There's only so much you can do when everyone isn't on the same page in terms of experience and competitiveness...Most of our players haven't even been to the Finals. Give Kobe some time before you fucks try claiming he's not on Jordan's level. He has a very bright future ahead of him and he's taken a team from 42 wins to the Finals. he should be PRAISED for that, not hated on. No one even expected the Lakers to be where they are...PeACe

[Corporate Hustler]

i agree kobe does have a bright future ahead of him and he has time to get near jordan's level but until then he aint

first ppl say it depends on the whole team and one person cant do it all.. and now they say he took them to the finals from a 42 win season.. which is it

also after the gasol trade all the laker fans were saying how the lakers have the best team in the league and are gonna win the championship no doubt

some people are good at adapting to situations and coming up with excuses for every scenario

[Twentytwofifty]

CAREER #'s
 
PPG- Jordan 30.1, Kobe 25.0
FG%- Jordan .497 Kobe .453
FT%- Jordan 83% Kobe 83%
3pt%- Jordan 33% Kobe 34%
RPG- Jordan 6.2   Kobe 5.3
APG- Jordan 5.3   Kobe 4.6
SPG- Jordan 2.4   Kobe 1.5
BPG- Jordan .83   Kobe .58
 
Now it gets real interesting....Here are their playoff stats.  Notice that Jordan INCREASES in every category or stays flat....Overrated Kobe actually DROPS IN EVERY CATEGORY.
 
PPG- Jordan 33.4    Kobe 22.6
FG%- Jordan 49%   Kobe 43%
FT%- Jordan 83%    Kobe 79%
3pt%-Jordan 33%    Kobe 32%
RPG- Jordan 6.4     Kobe 4.8
APG- Jordan 5.7     Kobe 4.4
 
Awards???/
 
Jordan- 6 MVP's.....Kobe 1 MVP's
Jordan- 6 Championships......Kobe 3 Championships
Jordan- 9 All NBA 1st team...Kobe 6 times
Jordan- 9 All NBA Defensive 1st team.....Kobe 6 times
Jordan- All-Star every season....Kobe 10 of 12
Jordan- Rookie of the year
Jordan- Defensive player of year
 
Okay, okay...Jordan played more seasons right?  Well he played 15 seasons with 2 of them shortened.  So the numbers are vey comparable.  I am tired of hearing about this comparison.  There are plenty of other players Kobe can be compared to.  MJ is not one of them.  MJ increased his game when it counted, Kobes game decreases.  These are hard numbers.  Somebody please try to argue this one.

[blue crew]

some of you lakers groupies iz blinded by being such cocriders. kobe refuses to lose? hahahaha cuzz has LOST 6 of his last NBA FINALS GAMES. yeah, da nicca refuses to lose 

not only did jordan dominate the nba as the greatest ever, tha nicca actually went out and WON titles as a LEADER and without a doubt the best player on the team, (kobe still hasnt, people can argue about who was better, clearly shaq) aint nobody have to make up all these complicated what if dream scenarious talkin about 'well if the sun woulda set at 5 55 instead of 5 58 then kobe would have 18 more titles' and 'kobe is the best ever, he has all the best teams when u count them in games they SHOULDA won and COULDA won....[but not that he actually won]"

plus this faggot jew keeps talkin about at 29 bla bla bla, the niccas didn't start at the same ages and kobe's marc ass skipped college, of course he was younger when he rode shaq to 3 titles. the nicca jordan is a college champion and olympic gold medalist too, which all the hall of famers respect. jordan is a champ on the three biggest basketball stages. jordan has 5 mpvs, 6 finals mvps, never missed the playoffs as a bull (with wac ass teams thru the 80s) NEVER LOST in the finals, didn't have shaq to piggybacc on, hahaha the list goes on. kobe meanwhile has ZERO titles as a leader.

as for sayin the nicca took a 42 win team to the finals, nicca get off the bullshit. u jews is known to be liars. u tryin to get moral victories now cuz yo wacc ass team is bein exposed as bitches in the finals. the 42 win team had niccas like brian cook, mo evans, kwame brown, smush parker and shammond williams. stop tryna act like kobe took THOSE niggas or THAT team to the finals hahaha. the nicca had to beg kupchac to make a trade for Gasol and Ariza (two much betta players) so he could stop whinin about bad teammates and fag ass kobe STILL cant win shiet.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

i agree kobe does have a bright future ahead of him and he has time to get near jordan's level but until then he aint

first ppl say it depends on the whole team and one person cant do it all.. and now they say he took them to the finals from a 42 win season.. which is it

also after the gasol trade all the laker fans were saying how the lakers have the best team in the league and are gonna win the championship no doubt

some people are good at adapting to situations and coming up with excuses for every scenario

It's not an excuse...the only reason the Lakers are the best team is because of Kobe. Kobe brought his team a long way, and he should be respected for it, not hated. That's all it comes down to. You guys are acting like Kobe's career is over. As of now, Kobe at 29 is more skilled and accomplished than Jordan at 29. He's on the path to ending his career as the greatest player ever, simple as that.

[blue crew]

The first number is for Jordan. Bryant's number is in parentheses.


NBA championships: 6 (3)

NBA championships won without a first-team All-NBA teammate: 3 (0)

MVPs : 5 (1)

NBA scoring titles: 10 (2)

All-NBA (first team) : 10 (6)

All-Defensive (first team): 9 (6)

NBA steals titles : 3 (0)

Career scoring average : 30.1 (25.0)

Playoff scoring average : 33.4 (24.1)

Career rebound average : 6.2 (5.3)

Career assist average : 5.3 (4.6)

Career field-goal percentage: .497 (.453)

Career free-throw percentage: .835 (.839)

Career 3-point percentage : .327 (.340)


So I guess the answer to the original question would be: Win a whole bunch more championships and some more MVP awards, and then maybe someday we can talk about it. Not today or tomorrow.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

some of you lakers groupies iz blinded by being such cocriders. kobe refuses to lose? hahahaha cuzz has LOST 6 of his last NBA FINALS GAMES. yeah, da nicca refuses to lose 

not only did jordan dominate the nba as the greatest ever, tha nicca actually went out and WON titles as a LEADER and without a doubt the best player on the team, (kobe still hasnt, people can argue about who was better, clearly shaq) aint nobody have to make up all these complicated what if dream scenarious talkin about 'well if the sun woulda set at 5 55 instead of 5 58 then kobe would have 18 more titles' and 'kobe is the best ever, he has all the best teams when u count them in games they SHOULDA won and COULDA won....[but not that he actually won]"

plus this faggot jew keeps talkin about at 29 bla bla bla, the niccas didn't start at the same ages and kobe's marc ass skipped college, of course he was younger when he rode shaq to 3 titles. the nicca jordan is a college champion and olympic gold medalist too, which all the hall of famers respect. jordan is a champ on the three biggest basketball stages. jordan has 5 mpvs, 6 finals mvps, never missed the playoffs as a bull (with wac ass teams thru the 80s) NEVER LOST in the finals, didn't have shaq to piggybacc on, hahaha the list goes on. kobe meanwhile has ZERO titles as a leader.

as for sayin the nicca took a 42 win team to the finals, nicca get off the bullshit. u jews is known to be liars. u tryin to get moral victories now cuz yo wacc ass team is bein exposed as bitches in the finals. the 42 win team had niccas like brian cook, mo evans, kwame brown, smush parker and shammond williams. stop tryna act like kobe took THOSE niggas or THAT team to the finals hahaha. the nicca had to beg kupchac to make a trade for Gasol and Ariza (two much betta players) so he could stop whinin about bad teammates and fag ass kobe STILL cant win shiet.

LOL...aren't you the same guy who said the Lakers were gunna fall off quickly when they were the number one seed back in December/January? You kept claiming it was a fluke and shit.. And then you disappeared as soon as you saw they were for real...Now they're in the Finals and you waited until they were down 3-1 to return. LMAO! You're the biggest piece of shit hater ever. If you can't appreciate Kobe for his skill on the court, then there's nothing more to discuss. If you can't admit that getting a team from 42 wins to the Finals is an amazing accomplishment that should be praised, then just kill yourself...PeACe

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

The first number is for Jordan. Bryant's number is in parentheses.


NBA championships: 6 (3)

NBA championships won without a first-team All-NBA teammate: 3 (0)

MVPs : 5 (1)

NBA scoring titles: 10 (2)

All-NBA (first team) : 10 (6)

All-Defensive (first team): 9 (6)

NBA steals titles : 3 (0)

Career scoring average : 30.1 (25.0)

Playoff scoring average : 33.4 (24.1)

Career rebound average : 6.2 (5.3)

Career assist average : 5.3 (4.6)

Career field-goal percentage: .497 (.453)

Career free-throw percentage: .835 (.839)

Career 3-point percentage : .327 (.340)


So I guess the answer to the original question would be: Win a whole bunch more championships and some more MVP awards, and then maybe someday we can talk about it. Not today or tomorrow.

COMPARE THEIR NUMBERS WITH JORDAN AT 29, DIPSHIT, NOT WHEN HE'S DONE WITH HIS CAREER.

[blue crew]

ur a nutrider tryin to give groupie luv credit to kobe. tryna to say kobe took a 42 win team (of smush parker, kwame brown, brian cook, mo evans and shammond williams-2 who were starters) to the finals by himself without acceptin that the gm made big trades to improve the team enough to actually make it better is some gay kobe stan shiet. kobe didn't take a 42 win team nowhere, he took a new, better team to being PUNKD in the finals by the celtics

thats like sayin paul pierce took a 24 win team to the finals hahaha. i mean pierce replaced 2 starters but kept perkins and rondo...just like the fakers replaced 2 starters for fisher and gaysol. real fans dont say  that shiet cuz they know pierce got helped by addin all stars like ray allen and kg. just like kobe got an all star in gaysol and accordin to your jew ass, a "should be all star" in lamar odom.

taking a 24 win team to the finals > taking a 42 win team to the finals. 

pierce is a better leader. ahahah.

[Now_Im_Not_Banned]

ur a nutrider tryin to give groupie luv credit to kobe. tryna to say kobe took a 42 win team (of smush parker, kwame brown, brian cook, mo evans and shammond williams-2 who were starters) to the finals by himself without acceptin that the gm made big trades to improve the team enough to actually make it better is some gay kobe stan shiet. kobe didn't take a 42 win team nowhere, he took a new, better team to being PUNKD in the finals by the celtics

thats like sayin paul pierce took a 24 win team to the finals hahaha. i mean pierce replaced 2 starters but kept perkins and rondo...just like the fakers replaced 2 starters for fisher and gaysol. real fans dont say  that shiet cuz they know pierce got helped by addin all stars like ray allen and kg. just like kobe got an all star in gaysol and accordin to your jew ass, a "should be all star" in lamar odom.

taking a 24 win team to the finals > taking a 42 win team to the finals. 

pierce is a better leader. ahahah.

WHO WAS THE ONE WHO GOT A TEAM BUILT AROUND KOBE? DUDE TOOK INITIATIVE AND DID IT HIMSELF. Just face it, Kobe is natural born winner. he doesn't settle for less. He plays this game to win and be the best. Pierce isn't even the leader of the Celtics, so try again. In the Finals, Pierce & Allen >>> Odom & Gasol. If you can't see that, then you must be retarded AND blind. Seriously...just give credit where it's due. Are you gunna disappear again with nothing to say after Kobe wills his team to a win tonight? Come on, now.

[blue crew]

pierce is the celtics captain and clear team leader.

takin a 24-win team to the finals > takin a 42 win team.

pierce's team had the greatest turnaround in nba history. kobe led his team to being 2008 nba finals losers.

go type in caps some more, u mad jew? ahaha

[Turf Hitta]

i agree kobe does have a bright future ahead of him and he has time to get near jordan's level but until then he aint

first ppl say it depends on the whole team and one person cant do it all.. and now they say he took them to the finals from a 42 win season.. which is it

also after the gasol trade all the laker fans were saying how the lakers have the best team in the league and are gonna win the championship no doubt

some people are good at adapting to situations and coming up with excuses for every scenario

It's not an excuse...the only reason the Lakers are the best team is because of Kobe. Kobe brought his team a long way, and he should be respected for it, not hated. That's all it comes down to. You guys are acting like Kobe's career is over. As of now, Kobe at 29 is more skilled and accomplished than Jordan at 29. He's on the path to ending his career as the greatest player ever, simple as that.

I'm predicting that the Lakers sweep or win in 5 against the Celtics in the 2008 Finals.

[hisairness]

I think you guys made NIK cry.

***Waits for the lame "Get off my nuts you nutrider.  Kobe Rules.  " comment.

[eS El Duque]

CAREER #'s
 
PPG- Jordan 30.1, Kobe 25.0
FG%- Jordan .497 Kobe .453
FT%- Jordan 83% Kobe 83%
3pt%- Jordan 33% Kobe 34%
RPG- Jordan 6.2   Kobe 5.3
APG- Jordan 5.3   Kobe 4.6
SPG- Jordan 2.4   Kobe 1.5
BPG- Jordan .83   Kobe .58
 
Now it gets real interesting....Here are their playoff stats.  Notice that Jordan INCREASES in every category or stays flat....Overrated Kobe actually DROPS IN EVERY CATEGORY.
 
PPG- Jordan 33.4    Kobe 22.6
FG%- Jordan 49%   Kobe 43%
FT%- Jordan 83%    Kobe 79%
3pt%-Jordan 33%    Kobe 32%
RPG- Jordan 6.4     Kobe 4.8
APG- Jordan 5.7     Kobe 4.4
 
Awards???/
 
Jordan- 6 MVP's.....Kobe 1 MVP's
Jordan- 6 Championships......Kobe 3 Championships
Jordan- 9 All NBA 1st team...Kobe 6 times
Jordan- 9 All NBA Defensive 1st team.....Kobe 6 times
Jordan- All-Star every season....Kobe 10 of 12
Jordan- Rookie of the year
Jordan- Defensive player of year
 
Okay, okay...Jordan played more seasons right?  Well he played 15 seasons with 2 of them shortened.  So the numbers are vey comparable.  I am tired of hearing about this comparison.  There are plenty of other players Kobe can be compared to.  MJ is not one of them.  MJ increased his game when it counted, Kobes game decreases.  These are hard numbers.  Somebody please try to argue this one.

wow..its done...arguement over!