Bishop Lamont's ''Grow Up'' was NOT produced by Dr. Dre!

[D-Stress]

^ i was about to post exact the same part as nima did.

so you're progressing 

[BJV]

Dre didn't play all his own instruments and their whole world crumbles right before their eyes. This happens once a month at dubcc. 

Puff Daddy is a producer too and he never even touched a drum machine during the making of his biggest records.

Im sure Focus will get plenty of credits in the fine print of the album. 

[YoungCrookedI]

dre is a producer not a beatmaker in general,so a producer gives you advices how to make this and that,a beatmaker is someone who plays instruments...

[Mackin]

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.I wonder if the same would be said of Movie Producers??
The musicians that played the instruments will get credited in print as well financially!!

So i don't see what the whole issue!!
Are these musicians e.g Focus complaining??
When they work with Dre, the track will have Dre's name and signature on it, as well thei creative input as well..
C'mon it's not rocket science.

As far as i know Dre earns 5% on the beats that he produces, so where does the rest go???
Go figure folks! and Leave Dre to continue working on Music and giving musicians an avenue to get their sounds/melodies heard!!!
"A star Is Born'

[mackinoz]

first time poster, avid reader.
but snoop himself is saying that dre didnt make alot of the beats on The Chronic Etc.
snoop is saying that dre didnt take credit, because he DID "produced" it. he just didnt make the beat etc.
well then fuck it, i dont want to know who "produced it" i want to know who made the fucking beat.
i feel that that it is more important to me as a listener.
i feel that who made the beat comes first.
snoop says that a producer isnt a beat maker.
well i bet you dj premier is a beat maker,
snoop is complaining about daz and warren etc claiming that they ddint get any credit for their making of "beats" on the chronic etc.
thats bullshit no doubt
so i dont see the argument really
Dre is a producer and thats what gets credit, but in most cases (E.G every other "producer") they are also "beat makers"
so i think maybe where dre "produce" something, the credit should also say BEAT made by .......
and coreographed, mixed, watched, by dr.dre.

[stylish]

Like Snoop says in an interview .. "produced by" .... dont mean "beat by"
( interviewer asked him about aint no fun beat )

what then?what did dre do if not a beat?what else?and people that did tha beat get no credit or what?thats weird!

he mixes the vocals / beats ... thats the effect why so much dre sounds bang your ears... of course he makes beats too .. or give advises for them

[Mackin]

first time poster, avid reader.
look i dont believe that dre takes credit for other people, but snoop himself is saying that he does
all this shit snoop is saying dre didnt take credit because he "produced" it. although he didnt make the beat etc.
well then fuck it, i dont want to know who "produced it" i want to know who made the fuckign beat.
i feel that that is more important to me as a listener.
i feel that who made the beat comes first.
snoop says that a producer isnt a beat maker.
thats fucking bull shit, i bet you dj premier is a fucking beat maker,
and there is also a problem with snoop complaining about daz/ warren etc claiming that they ddint get any credit for their making of "beats" on the chronic etc.
thats bullshit no doubt

Hmm....i'm kinda lost as to what you are trying to say there...

[mackinoz]

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Hmm....i'm kinda lost as to what you are trying to say there...
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sorry, its been revised

[Booz]

Many people have said that someone left a beat to dre and he completely changed it...so more credit to the beat maker? 
Besides Dre is actually in the studio working with the artists flow, mixing etc...when beat maker just sends some beats through internet or something, if that ain't producing, nothing is.

[UCC]

Dr Dre can pick any random beat maker or musician and make their shit into hot records

The key ingredient is always Dr Dre - Dre is like the steak and Focus, Daz, Warren G, etc are all seasoning... you can have any of them with Dre and it'll still be a dope meal, but if you take away the Dre, you're eating just seasoning with no steak
 

[Mackin]

first time poster, avid reader.
look i dont believe that dre takes credit for other people, but snoop himself is saying that he does
all this shit snoop is saying dre didnt take credit because he "produced" it. although he didnt make the beat etc.
well then fuck it, i dont want to know who "produced it" i want to know who made the fuckign beat.
i feel that that is more important to me as a listener.
i feel that who made the beat comes first.
snoop says that a producer isnt a beat maker.
thats fucking bull shit, i bet you dj premier is a fucking beat maker,
and there is also a problem with snoop complaining about daz/ warren etc claiming that they ddint get any credit for their making of "beats" on the chronic etc.
thats bullshit no doubt

Hmm....i'm kinda lost as to what you are trying to say there...

sorry, its been revised

Props fr the clear up!
+1

Alright..well in most recent booklets, those involved in the creation/mixing of the beat are listed.
So they do get credited as well!, depending on their role, i.e keyboard/guitar..
That info will kinda give it away that these guys probably worked on the beat/played instruments, while Dre was Producing what Sounds/melodies he wanted d them to work with. That in is self is Producing!

[mackinoz]

^^ thanks
yea i didnt think of how they credit each individual as of late.
buti guess what im trying to say is, i know dre is great, and MOST of the things he produces are untouchable.
but i can understand why warren and daz are upset that they are uncredited, and i cant see what the hell snoop is going on about.

[Cheese]

in that case the beat sucks 

[Mackin]

^^ thanks
yea i didnt think of how they credit each individual as of late.
buti guess what im trying to say is, i know dre is great, and MOST of the things he produces are untouchable.
but i can understand why warren and daz are upset that they are uncredited, and i cant see what the hell snoop is going on about.

^^well..Snoop in that interview was only being truthful!
Yes they made the beat, but with Dre's  Producing guide,their work + Snoop's eagerness to perform at his best, resulted in a great Album!!
Yes they should have gotten some form of credit,they didn't at that time. Things like this will occur..

They got their chance to shine, Warren G dropped 3 dope albums, Daz's work on Dogg Food is renowned to be his best work!
That's just my two cents!

It's alright to cry adn moan about it..But What is important, is what you do after!

[RHustle]

thanks for the info Nima