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Ether vs destroy an rebuild
KVB:
--- Quote ---Biggie and Jaz-O is what killed Jigga. And the dissing women, and what not. All that was jaw dropping 'cause it's true. Ether was an endless diss, that had what I call diss feelers or shit that ain't true. Like most battle, with 'Pac and Hit 'Em Up, or Dre and Dre Day, or Eazy and Real Muthaphukkin' G'z, or Jigga and Super Ugly, (break beer bottles on your boys chip tooth). But that's suppose to be an EmCees wit and creativity, which is part of a hip-hop battle. Man, study hip-hop and battling. Not all facts, more wit.
Destroye and Rebuild was a great song, I like listening to more than Ether, but the disses weren't as great. More like a warning, or something. But not a direct diss. It was a tight song though. Overall, I wouldn't mind Destroye and Rebuild aimed at me, 'cause it didn't do much, but I would, and have, bump it in my car. Peace.
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I disagree... fuck it, I'ma dissect both songs for y'all (Ether, Takeover), and come up with a winner.
=[Euthanasia]=:
Aww c'mon guys, "Ether" killed "Takeover", he took out Jay with that one, you can't deny it, once "Ether" broke out everyone was ready to crown Nas, thats how dope it was. The fact that he backed it up with a great album "Stillmatic" also helped with the crowning but no-one can deny the impact "Ether" had. Like M Dogg said, Jaz-O was the key element in that diss, hardly anyone knew who the fuck he was or what impact he had on Jay's career before Nas clearly exposed it, that was a classic jab and a very original and thought through diss. Anyways, this argument is getting tired anyways, we could go round in circles all day 'cos at the end of the day it's all about your personal preference....
Jome:
--- Quote ---Nas fuckin murdered Jay Z, shit was a bloodbath, ether is the better diss song, better than takeover and destroy....
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KVB:
--- Quote --->= link=board=outbound;num=1023417772;start=0#11 date=06/08/02 at 04:49:30]Aww c'mon guys, "Ether" killed "Takeover", he took out Jay with that one, you can't deny it, once "Ether" broke out everyone was ready to crown Nas, thats how dope it was. The fact that he backed it up with a great album "Stillmatic" also helped with the crowning but no-one can deny the impact "Ether" had. Like M Dogg said, Jaz-O was the key element in that diss, hardly anyone knew who the fuck he was or what impact he had on Jay's career before Nas clearly exposed it, that was a classic jab and a very original and thought through diss. Anyways, this argument is getting tired anyways, we could go round in circles all day 'cos at the end of the day it's all about your personal preference....
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Nas sleepwalked through the song... LOL, his flow was weak, you gotta admit that 704D. I can mention a whole lot of hard-hitting punchlines in "Takeover", whilst the ones in "Ether" were few and far between. Jay-Z was spitting the truth too, which cannot be said about Nas. He was making up fictionary stories.
M Dogg™:
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Nas sleepwalked through the song... LOL, his flow was weak, you gotta admit that 704D. I can mention a whole lot of hard-hitting punchlines in "Takeover", whilst the ones in "Ether" were few and far between. Jay-Z was spitting the truth too, which cannot be said about Nas. He was making up fictionary stories.
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Where we listening to the same song, Nas has a very internse and focused flow. Nas was gunning for a knock out. And as I said before, hip-hop battles are judged on wit, and other shit, not just fact. And call himself better than Biggie, but saying his lyrics ain't truth, then what was Blueprint. And Jaz-O, him only seeming to diss women like Girls, Girls, Girls. Most girls I knew used to be big Jay-Z fans until that song. Throw in some good old story-telling, and you got yourself a winner. Super Ugly fell off hard, and Nas won. Compare Ether to other great diss songs, like Callin' Out Names, 2nd Round K.O., Return of the Ripper, and Real Muthaphukkin G'z. Listen to them great diss songs, and realize real hip-hop diss songs. I'll admit Takeover was a great track, and I didn't think Nas would comeback, but in the end Ether cameback, and it wasn't Takeover that Jigga lost, but Super Ugly.
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