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I feel that overall, Dre's been successful, but I don't think the legacy of Aftermath has lived up to it's full potential or even 60-70% of it. I think it could have been what Def Jam was and still is, but management wise and talent wise, I feel that the many mistakes that were made will be out-shined by the major accomplishments that the successful artists have had.I think Aftermath's strength has been at building diamonds in the rough, and taking artists that are virtually unknown or only regionally known and making them into superstars...that's apparent with 50, Em, and Game. However...aside from them and a few others, I feel that the label has fell short in making artists become superstars, whether it's because they never even got to release an album, or because they never had the potential to become a star from the jump. I feel that Aftermath is the type of label that makes sure that every artist that comes through has that "Aftermath" sound to them, whether it fits or not. This is how Death Row, Cash Money, and No Limit functioned...but one reason Def Jam is still seen as the #1 label in history is because they have adapted to the times and the sounds of the artists without having to have a "family trademarked sound" as these other labels. Def Jam let Warren G sound like Warren G, even when no other artists were on the label representing the West.I think the fact that Dre has to have a major hand in every single project has been a gift and a curse. It's an obvious gift because he's arguably the best executive producer and song producer in rap history...but I can imagine how hard it is to be the producer, AND exec. producer, AND the founder/owner of the label who sees everything. This can create conflicts of interest between him and artists when it comes to their vision, and he basically has the final word on every project that goes through or gets scrapped, which can be good or bad.I feel that the label now has the stigma of benching and dropping artists to the extent that the label has lost some of it's verbal prestige...meaning that when somebody says "I'm signed to Aftermath," people are like "oh for real? So when you gonna get dropped...oh shit, I mean, when you gonna drop?" I feel this is a direct result of Dre being the "EVERYTHING" at the label...although he still has much help in every area, such as the production/beat making and executive level. Every label has artists that are signed and never put out...but if you look at Aftermath since it's creation 12 years ago, only SEVEN artists have come out and put out albums....with one being Dre himself. Quality is better than quantity...so this may be much better than No Limit putting out 15-20 artists per year....but it is still a far cry from what other labels have done, especially since only 5 of those 7 acts had commercially successful releases and only 3 stayed with the company past the first album (one being Dre himself).
Quote from: R-Tistic on September 08, 2008, 10:56:33 PMI feel that overall, Dre's been successful, but I don't think the legacy of Aftermath has lived up to it's full potential or even 60-70% of it. I think it could have been what Def Jam was and still is, but management wise and talent wise, I feel that the many mistakes that were made will be out-shined by the major accomplishments that the successful artists have had.I think Aftermath's strength has been at building diamonds in the rough, and taking artists that are virtually unknown or only regionally known and making them into superstars...that's apparent with 50, Em, and Game. However...aside from them and a few others, I feel that the label has fell short in making artists become superstars, whether it's because they never even got to release an album, or because they never had the potential to become a star from the jump. I feel that Aftermath is the type of label that makes sure that every artist that comes through has that "Aftermath" sound to them, whether it fits or not. This is how Death Row, Cash Money, and No Limit functioned...but one reason Def Jam is still seen as the #1 label in history is because they have adapted to the times and the sounds of the artists without having to have a "family trademarked sound" as these other labels. Def Jam let Warren G sound like Warren G, even when no other artists were on the label representing the West.I think the fact that Dre has to have a major hand in every single project has been a gift and a curse. It's an obvious gift because he's arguably the best executive producer and song producer in rap history...but I can imagine how hard it is to be the producer, AND exec. producer, AND the founder/owner of the label who sees everything. This can create conflicts of interest between him and artists when it comes to their vision, and he basically has the final word on every project that goes through or gets scrapped, which can be good or bad.I feel that the label now has the stigma of benching and dropping artists to the extent that the label has lost some of it's verbal prestige...meaning that when somebody says "I'm signed to Aftermath," people are like "oh for real? So when you gonna get dropped...oh shit, I mean, when you gonna drop?" I feel this is a direct result of Dre being the "EVERYTHING" at the label...although he still has much help in every area, such as the production/beat making and executive level. Every label has artists that are signed and never put out...but if you look at Aftermath since it's creation 12 years ago, only SEVEN artists have come out and put out albums....with one being Dre himself. Quality is better than quantity...so this may be much better than No Limit putting out 15-20 artists per year....but it is still a far cry from what other labels have done, especially since only 5 of those 7 acts had commercially successful releases and only 3 stayed with the company past the first album (one being Dre himself).I haven't read any replies in this thread, because I noticed R-tistic's thread got merged after the fact, but here's my reply to R-tistic.I can't question Dre's business ethics when it comes to Aftermath artists getting dropped, but I have a feeling that Dre's boss, Jimmy Iovine has the REAL FINAL SAY in most of these matters. Afterall, if Jimmy don't like it, he don't have to finance it through Interscope. Interscope takes precedence over Aftermath.
I can't question Dre's business ethics when it comes to Aftermath artists getting dropped,but I have a feeling that Dre's boss,Jimmy Iovine has the REAL FINAL SAY in most of these matters.Afterall, if Jimmy don't like it, he don't have to finance it through Interscope. Interscope takes precedence over Aftermath.
Even more now when Jimmy owns the whole label. More artists began to drop (who would've though Busta would get dropped). I'm surprised Jimmy haven't said to Dre that drop or get dropped (well can't know for sure).If Detox/Em-album won't get released in 2 years,then pretty much the label should be shutdown since none other artist will be released without them backing up with features.
Aftermath was started as a joint venture between Dre and Interscope.Does that mean Interscope owned 50% of Aftermath or they were just entitled to 50% of the profits?Dre sold 30% of his share to Interscope a while back so that means he either currently owns 20% or 80% of Aftermath.
Quote from: R-Tistic on September 08, 2008, 10:56:33 PMI feel that overall, Dre's been successful, but I don't think the legacy of Aftermath has lived up to it's full potential or even 60-70% of it. I think it could have been what Def Jam was and still is, but management wise and talent wise, I feel that the many mistakes that were made will be out-shined by the major accomplishments that the successful artists have had.I think Aftermath's strength has been at building diamonds in the rough, and taking artists that are virtually unknown or only regionally known and making them into superstars...that's apparent with 50, Em, and Game. However...aside from them and a few others, I feel that the label has fell short in making artists become superstars, whether it's because they never even got to release an album, or because they never had the potential to become a star from the jump. I feel that Aftermath is the type of label that makes sure that every artist that comes through has that "Aftermath" sound to them, whether it fits or not. This is how Death Row, Cash Money, and No Limit functioned...but one reason Def Jam is still seen as the #1 label in history is because they have adapted to the times and the sounds of the artists without having to have a "family trademarked sound" as these other labels. Def Jam let Warren G sound like Warren G, even when no other artists were on the label representing the West.I think the fact that Dre has to have a major hand in every single project has been a gift and a curse. It's an obvious gift because he's arguably the best executive producer and song producer in rap history...but I can imagine how hard it is to be the producer, AND exec. producer, AND the founder/owner of the label who sees everything. This can create conflicts of interest between him and artists when it comes to their vision, and he basically has the final word on every project that goes through or gets scrapped, which can be good or bad.I feel that the label now has the stigma of benching and dropping artists to the extent that the label has lost some of it's verbal prestige...meaning that when somebody says "I'm signed to Aftermath," people are like "oh for real? So when you gonna get dropped...oh shit, I mean, when you gonna drop?" I feel this is a direct result of Dre being the "EVERYTHING" at the label...although he still has much help in every area, such as the production/beat making and executive level. Every label has artists that are signed and never put out...but if you look at Aftermath since it's creation 12 years ago, only SEVEN artists have come out and put out albums....with one being Dre himself. Quality is better than quantity...so this may be much better than No Limit putting out 15-20 artists per year....but it is still a far cry from what other labels have done, especially since only 5 of those 7 acts had commercially successful releases and only 3 stayed with the company past the first album (one being Dre himself). Def Jam and Aftermath are not the same type of labels so i don't think the comparison is even worth making. Now seems like the hot moment to underride Dre's current situation and accomplishments but Aftermath is still relevant after over a decade. Thier future may be questionable but they are doing better than Death Row after Interscope stepped away and stand to do better than Ruthless once N.W.A. was no more. The fact that they are still around given the state of the music industry actually says something. No artists on Death Row or Ruthless before or after Dre left either had their own sublabels like G-Unit or Shady. Which labels is it a far cry from? Name some of these labels that have two or three stars whose are bigger names than their C.E.O./producer without him throwing his shit all over their projects. Diddy has never played the background long enough to pull a 50 Cent or Eminem or even Game. His whole label revolves around him and his publicity stunts. All of the releases at Doggystyle are groups presented by and featuring Snoop. Roc-A-Fella? G-Unit? Murder Inc? All partly run by the biggest act on the label. Only one of them still has a major household name superstar still on the label that doesn't have an owning interest in the company. Seven artists is nothing to look down at. There are maybe four labels around that are in the same league as Aftermath and only two have been around as long. Say what you will but his reign at Aftermath has been longer and more succesful than the ones at Death Row and Ruthless. The guy is doing something right.
20 artists have officially been signed to Aftermath in the last 10 years. Out of those 20,only 6 have released an album under Aftermath.Hittman - 10 guest appearances on "2001", wrote Dre's verse on "The Next Episode"Years Signed - 3Albums Released - 0Rakim - guest appeared on Truth Hurts "Addictive" & Jay-Z's "The Watcher 2"Years Signed - 3Albums Released - 0 ( "Oh My God" shelved )AntonioYears Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Truth Hurts - had a top 10 hit with "Addictive", released her debut album on AftermathYears Signed - 3Albums Released - 1 ( later pulled off shelves due to lawsuit over "Addictive" )Shaunta - appeared on "The Wash" & "8 Mile" soundtracksYears Signed - 2Albums Released - 0Joe Beast - appeared on "The Wash" & "8 Mile" soundtracksYears Signed - 2Albums Released - 0Brooklyn - appeared on 50 Cent's "In Da Hood"Years Signed - 1Albums Released - 0The Game - first signed to Aftermath in, later co-signed with G-Unit and dropped"The Documentary"Years Signed - 4Albums Released - 1G.A.G.E.Years Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Joell OrtizYears Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Dion - originally Hi-Tek's protege, appeared on Game's "Documentary" & 50's "Massacre"Years Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Tiffany VillarrealYears Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Eve - Dre produced on 2 of her non-Aftermath albums, featured on Mary J Blige's "Not Today" and Gwen Stefani's "Rich Girl"Years Signed - 4Albums Released - 0 ( "Here I Am" shelved )Busta Rhymes - signed in 2004, dropped one album and scheduled to drop follow up before leaving the label.Years Signed - 4Albums Released - 1 ( "Blessed" shelved )Stat Quo - guest appeared on Eminem's "Encore",Young Buck's "Straight Outta Cashville" and the Re-Up album. Dropped "Like Dat" as a buzz single,later planned on releasing "Get Low" as a single before dropping "Here We Go". Statlanta pushed back 328 times.Years Signed - 5Albums Released - 0 ( "Statlanta" shelved )Marsha Ambrosius - guest spots on Game's "Documentary" and Busta's "Big Bang"Years Signed - 2Albums Released - 0Bishop Lamont - dropped "Grow Up" as the offical single off his debut, "The Reformation"Years Signed - 3Albums Released - 0 ( "The Reformation" pending... )50 Cent - released 3 albums on Shady\AftermathYears Signed - 5Albums Released - 3 ( "Before I Self Destruct" pending... )Eminem - released 4 studio albums on Aftermath, 5 including "Curtain Call: The Hits"Years Signed - 10Albums Released - 5 ( "King Mathers" pending... )Dr. Dre - founder, CEO of Aftermath Entertainment, dropped "2001" 9 years agoYears Signed - 12Albums Released 1 ( "Look out for Detox" )Stat Quo is pretty much finished, and there's word Bishop is as well. That label is on some voodoo shit.
its still hard to understand why the album was never released by Aftermath.There are SOME weak joints but the album as a whole is bangin'. I can understand why they choose not to release it before the label blew up but they f**ked themselvesBY GOING AFTER ONLY THE BIG SELLERS.I might be no business man but releasing T and HittWOULD HAVE KEPT THE LABEL'S CREDIBILITY ALIVE WHICH IN LONG TERM MAINTAINS SALES.They would NOT have sold like 50 and Em but it would have allowed the label to SURVIVE ON TWO LEVELS with GOOD music and the BIG sales provided by Em and 50. Can't fault them for just chasing paper but all these G-Unit and Shady affiliations and wak albums has made Aftermath a bit of a joke.
Aftermath statistics...Quote from: Larrabee on September 15, 2008, 12:06:59 PM20 artists have officially been signed to Aftermath in the last 10 years. Out of those 20,only 6 have released an album under Aftermath.Hittman - 10 guest appearances on "2001", wrote Dre's verse on "The Next Episode"Years Signed - 3Albums Released - 0Rakim - guest appeared on Truth Hurts "Addictive" & Jay-Z's "The Watcher 2"Years Signed - 3Albums Released - 0 ( "Oh My God" shelved )AntonioYears Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Truth Hurts - had a top 10 hit with "Addictive", released her debut album on AftermathYears Signed - 3Albums Released - 1 ( later pulled off shelves due to lawsuit over "Addictive" )Shaunta - appeared on "The Wash" & "8 Mile" soundtracksYears Signed - 2Albums Released - 0Joe Beast - appeared on "The Wash" & "8 Mile" soundtracksYears Signed - 2Albums Released - 0Brooklyn - appeared on 50 Cent's "In Da Hood"Years Signed - 1Albums Released - 0The Game - first signed to Aftermath in, later co-signed with G-Unit and dropped"The Documentary"Years Signed - 4Albums Released - 1G.A.G.E.Years Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Joell OrtizYears Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Dion - originally Hi-Tek's protege, appeared on Game's "Documentary" & 50's "Massacre"Years Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Tiffany VillarrealYears Signed - 1Albums Released - 0Eve - Dre produced on 2 of her non-Aftermath albums, featured on Mary J Blige's "Not Today" and Gwen Stefani's "Rich Girl"Years Signed - 4Albums Released - 0 ( "Here I Am" shelved )Busta Rhymes - signed in 2004, dropped one album and scheduled to drop follow up before leaving the label.Years Signed - 4Albums Released - 1 ( "Blessed" shelved )Stat Quo - guest appeared on Eminem's "Encore",Young Buck's "Straight Outta Cashville" and the Re-Up album. Dropped "Like Dat" as a buzz single,later planned on releasing "Get Low" as a single before dropping "Here We Go". Statlanta pushed back 328 times.Years Signed - 5Albums Released - 0 ( "Statlanta" shelved )Marsha Ambrosius - guest spots on Game's "Documentary" and Busta's "Big Bang"Years Signed - 2Albums Released - 0Bishop Lamont - dropped "Grow Up" as the offical single off his debut, "The Reformation"Years Signed - 3Albums Released - 0 ( "The Reformation" pending... )50 Cent - released 3 albums on Shady\AftermathYears Signed - 5Albums Released - 3 ( "Before I Self Destruct" pending... )Eminem - released 4 studio albums on Aftermath, 5 including "Curtain Call: The Hits"Years Signed - 10Albums Released - 5 ( "King Mathers" pending... )Dr. Dre - founder, CEO of Aftermath Entertainment, dropped "2001" 9 years agoYears Signed - 12Albums Released 1 ( "Look out for Detox" )Stat Quo is pretty much finished, and there's word Bishop is as well. That label is on some voodoo shit.