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Anyone who thinks Aftermath will leave a lasting legacy is confusing the label with the individuals Dre, Eminem and 50.Dr Dre, without question, will go down in the hip-hop history books. It's a pretty sure thing that Eminem and 50 will too. '2001', 'The Marshall Mathers LP' and 'Get Rich or Die Tryin'' will all probably stand the test of time.But when - if - anyone thinks about the label behind those releases, they'll think of Interscope, not Aftermath.What made labels such as Death Row, Bad Boy and No Limit were that they were movements as much as companies. When you think of any one of those names, for better or worse, you think about more than the music. Think Death Row, think Suge Knight and the logo swinging on chains; think Bad Boy, think a new era in commercial hip-pop and Puffy's shift into mass market culture; think No Limit, think of Master P's relentless work ethic and 'conveyor belt' approach to releasing music. You can argue that none of those labels put out a record that impacted hip-hop as much as '2001', but from a corporate perspective they changed and broke the rules about how a hip-hop record company functions.What does Aftermath have in that respect? Little. It's essentially a vanity label for Dre that he's now largely sold back to Interscope from what I understand. It's not a movement, it's not a name that gets regularly shouted out by artists on its records. It's a logo. Three great albums don't make a great label - they just make three great albums.That's not neccessarily a bad thing. Dre doesn't need Aftermath to have as a legacy. He's Dr Dre.
Quote from: UCC on July 15, 2008, 06:03:47 AMDamn, has everyone gone insane? Aftermath is probably in the top 3 greatest HipHop labels ever, and they're easily one of the biggest selling, Eminem, Dre, 50 Cent - those are three of the biggest HipHop artists ever! Who sold big AND are critically acclaimedAftermath has sold more records than Death Row by a large margin - 50 sold about 25 million, Eminem about 45 million, Dre sold 6 million of 2001... compared with Death Row selling 3 million of the Chronic, Doggystyle 4 million, and 2Pac about 15 millionDeath Row had more 'classic' stuff, though only thanks to Dre anyway... and Eminem's first two records, 2001, and 50's first record are all highly acclaimedBad Boy sold a lot, but is a 99% a joke in terms of credibility (apart from Biggie), same with No Limit, they don't have any really classic stuffThe only label that probably beats both Aftermath and Death Row is Def Jam just because they have so many classic records and had such a huge influence in getting HipHop onto the level it is nowI'm probably forgetting some labels off the top of my head, but Aftermath is definitely up therenah i'm just being totally honest.if you compare aftermath ( as a business ) with Ruthless Records (before it got out of hand) then i'd say aftermath is a joke.there was some good music being made, but i wouldn't really credit the label for that.
Damn, has everyone gone insane? Aftermath is probably in the top 3 greatest HipHop labels ever, and they're easily one of the biggest selling, Eminem, Dre, 50 Cent - those are three of the biggest HipHop artists ever! Who sold big AND are critically acclaimedAftermath has sold more records than Death Row by a large margin - 50 sold about 25 million, Eminem about 45 million, Dre sold 6 million of 2001... compared with Death Row selling 3 million of the Chronic, Doggystyle 4 million, and 2Pac about 15 millionDeath Row had more 'classic' stuff, though only thanks to Dre anyway... and Eminem's first two records, 2001, and 50's first record are all highly acclaimedBad Boy sold a lot, but is a 99% a joke in terms of credibility (apart from Biggie), same with No Limit, they don't have any really classic stuffThe only label that probably beats both Aftermath and Death Row is Def Jam just because they have so many classic records and had such a huge influence in getting HipHop onto the level it is nowI'm probably forgetting some labels off the top of my head, but Aftermath is definitely up there
Anyone who thinks Aftermath will leave a lasting legacy is confusing the label with the individuals Dre, Eminem and 50.
What made labels such as Death Row, Bad Boy and No Limit were that they were movements as much as companies. When you think of any one of those names, for better or worse, you think about more than the music. Think Death Row, think Suge Knight and the logo swinging on chains; think Bad Boy, think a new era in commercial hip-pop and Puffy's shift into mass market culture; think No Limit, think of Master P's relentless work ethic and 'conveyor belt' approach to releasing music.
What does Aftermath have in that respect? Little. It's essentially a vanity label for Dre
it's not a name that gets regularly shouted out by artists on its records.
Quote from: Dre-Day on July 15, 2008, 06:10:17 AMQuote from: UCC on July 15, 2008, 06:03:47 AMDamn, has everyone gone insane? Aftermath is probably in the top 3 greatest HipHop labels ever, and they're easily one of the biggest selling, Eminem, Dre, 50 Cent - those are three of the biggest HipHop artists ever! Who sold big AND are critically acclaimedAftermath has sold more records than Death Row by a large margin - 50 sold about 25 million, Eminem about 45 million, Dre sold 6 million of 2001... compared with Death Row selling 3 million of the Chronic, Doggystyle 4 million, and 2Pac about 15 millionDeath Row had more 'classic' stuff, though only thanks to Dre anyway... and Eminem's first two records, 2001, and 50's first record are all highly acclaimedBad Boy sold a lot, but is a 99% a joke in terms of credibility (apart from Biggie), same with No Limit, they don't have any really classic stuffThe only label that probably beats both Aftermath and Death Row is Def Jam just because they have so many classic records and had such a huge influence in getting HipHop onto the level it is nowI'm probably forgetting some labels off the top of my head, but Aftermath is definitely up therenah i'm just being totally honest.if you compare aftermath ( as a business ) with Ruthless Records (before it got out of hand) then i'd say aftermath is a joke.there was some good music being made, but i wouldn't really credit the label for that.Though I'd have thought as a business, that's where they were really, really good - they sold as much or more than anyone else, and from fewer albums!
Quote from: Lord Funk aka Ron Burgundy on July 15, 2008, 06:54:50 AMWhat does Aftermath have in that respect? Little. It's essentially a vanity label for DreNot really, it was a new model based on the mistakes of Death Row... it let Dre be in charge of the music and Jimmy be in charge of the business. Instead of Dre being pushed into the role of house producer while Suge makes deals to do soundtracks with a bunch of filler and puts tracks from one project onto another project and keeps signing more and more people, it let Dre choose who came to the label, and it let him be in control of the musical side of the projects
it doesn't have that raw uncut talent that death row(92-96)had. if he had kept king t,and signed niggas like knoc turn al, timebomb, xzibit,jayo felony,snoop dogg,tha dogg pound and kept rbx he woulda exceeded death row and would have a legacy. he just need to get rid of the clutter over there and start fresh(artist wise). i'm waiting to see what he's gonna do wit the d.o.c.'s upcoming album.
Quote from: Lord Funk aka Ron Burgundy on July 15, 2008, 06:54:50 AMAnyone who thinks Aftermath will leave a lasting legacy is confusing the label with the individuals Dre, Eminem and 50.Dr Dre, without question, will go down in the hip-hop history books. It's a pretty sure thing that Eminem and 50 will too. '2001', 'The Marshall Mathers LP' and 'Get Rich or Die Tryin'' will all probably stand the test of time.But when - if - anyone thinks about the label behind those releases, they'll think of Interscope, not Aftermath.What made labels such as Death Row, Bad Boy and No Limit were that they were movements as much as companies. When you think of any one of those names, for better or worse, you think about more than the music. Think Death Row, think Suge Knight and the logo swinging on chains; think Bad Boy, think a new era in commercial hip-pop and Puffy's shift into mass market culture; think No Limit, think of Master P's relentless work ethic and 'conveyor belt' approach to releasing music. You can argue that none of those labels put out a record that impacted hip-hop as much as '2001', but from a corporate perspective they changed and broke the rules about how a hip-hop record company functions.What does Aftermath have in that respect? Little. It's essentially a vanity label for Dre that he's now largely sold back to Interscope from what I understand. It's not a movement, it's not a name that gets regularly shouted out by artists on its records. It's a logo. Three great albums don't make a great label - they just make three great albums.That's not neccessarily a bad thing. Dre doesn't need Aftermath to have as a legacy. He's Dr Dre.great post, +1